{"conversationCode":"004-038","tapeNumber":4,"conversationNumber":38,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-004-038","startDateTime":"1971-06-04T21:17:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-05T00:03:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1971","startTime":"5:17 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1971","endTime":"8:03 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Cox, Edward R. F.; White House operator; Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan); Cox, Tricia Nixon;","description":"On June 4, 1971, Edward R. F. Cox, White House operator, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan) Nixon, and Tricia Nixon Cox talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 5:17 pm and 8:03 pm. 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Cox.\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 03/24/2022.\n1m 59s segment cleared for release. 11s remain closed as 004-038-w002.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[004-038-w002]\n[Duration: 1m 59s]\n\nThe White House operator talked with Tricia Nixon Cox at an unknown time between 5:17 and\n8:03 pm.\n\nThelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon talked with Tricia Nixon Cox at an unknown time between 5:17\nand 8:03 pm.\n\n      June 4, 1971 diplomatic reception for Tricia Nixon Cox\n              -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s opinion\n              -Tricia Nixon Cox’s opinion\n              -The President\n\n    Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon and Julie Nixon Eisenhower’s schedule\n         -Forthcoming June 5, 1971 visit to Camp David\n\n    Maintenance of White House driveway\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Personal Returnable]\n[004-038-w002]\n[Duration: 11s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n    Tricia Nixon Cox schedule\n          -Potential visit to Camp David\n\n    The President’s schedule\n         -Camp David visit\n              -Timing\n              -June 5, 1971\n\n    Tricia Nixon Cox schedule\n          -Potential visit to Camp David\n               -Timing\n               -Fina Sanchez\n               -June 5, 1971\n\n**********************************************************************","filename":["004-038.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:06:39","tapeEnd":"02:08:57","participantsList":["Cox, Edward R. F.","White House operator","Nixon, Thelma C. (\"Pat\") (Ryan)","Cox, Tricia Nixon"],"prevCode":"004-037","nextCode":"004-039","aiSummary":{"text":"Pat Nixon calls her daughter Tricia Nixon Cox to discuss the success of a diplomatic reception held for Tricia, and to relay an invitation from President Nixon for Tricia to visit Camp David over the weekend. The President plans to join them later, after completing work at the White House, and the White House driveway maintenance is also mentioned. Tricia is encouraged to consider the invitation, with the understanding that her assistant, Fina Sanchez, can help her manage her schedule.","topics":["Diplomatic reception","Camp David visit","Family plans","White House maintenance","President's schedule","Tricia Nixon Cox schedule"],"generatedAt":"2026-10-27T14:55:28.201Z"},"topicSlugs":["diplomatic-reception","camp-david-visit","family-plans","white-house-maintenance","presidential-scheduling","tricia-nixon-cox-schedule"],"audioDurationSec":135,"audioFiles":[{"file":"004-038.mp3","bytes":962107,"durationSec":135.05,"bitrate":56990,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:20.571Z","transcript":[{"start":0,"end":4,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Operator, I think you might be able to get her at 8286."},{"start":4,"end":6,"speaker":"Operator","text":"Right, sir."},{"start":6,"end":15,"speaker":"Unknown","text":"[laughter]"},{"start":15,"end":16,"speaker":"Operator","text":"[unintelligible]"},{"start":16,"end":18,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Tricia?"},{"start":18,"end":19,"speaker":"Operator","text":"Yes."},{"start":19,"end":20,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Yes."},{"start":20,"end":21,"speaker":"Operator","text":"Mrs. Nixon is calling."},{"start":21,"end":23,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":23,"end":25,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Hi, Tricia."},{"start":25,"end":26,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Hi."},{"start":26,"end":27,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"How are you?"},{"start":27,"end":29,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Fine, how was the reception?"},{"start":29,"end":32,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Oh, it went beautifully. It was real pretty."},{"start":32,"end":33,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Good."},{"start":33,"end":34,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"And I think everybody had a good time."},{"start":34,"end":38,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Oh, wonderful. Daddy said they gave you a toast."},{"start":38,"end":47,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yes, they did. And he was wonderful in replying. And we're, right now, going up to Camp David. He wanted me to tell you."},{"start":47,"end":48,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Is Julie going with you?"},{"start":48,"end":50,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Julie and I, mh-mm."},{"start":50,"end":51,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":51,"end":56,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"And they're going to fix the driveway, you know, around the porch out here."},{"start":56,"end":57,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Oh, are they?"},{"start":57,"end":61,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yes, they're starting right now, in fact, this evening. Some trucks are here."},{"start":61,"end":62,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":62,"end":67,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"And he said for you to think about whether you wanted to come up tomorrow evening."},{"start":67,"end":68,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":68,"end":69,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"He's coming up tomorrow evening."},{"start":69,"end":72,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Oh, he's coming up tomorrow evening? He's not coming up tonight?"},{"start":72,"end":77,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"No, he's staying. He has a lot of work to do and it's quiet here. And then he's coming up tomorrow evening."},{"start":77,"end":78,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Oh."},{"start":78,"end":84,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"And so he said, \"Tricia, I want you to come up and stay overnight. And stay over Sunday.\" And wait for [unintelligible]-"},{"start":84,"end":87,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Yeah, do you think I can get all my things done?"},{"start":87,"end":94,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Well, you could just wait and come with him tomorrow evening, you see? Because you have Fina there tomorrow, doing your things, don't you?"},{"start":94,"end":96,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Right. Mhm."},{"start":96,"end":100,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"And so you wouldn't come up until tomorrow evening, and then you'd only be there Sunday."},{"start":100,"end":101,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Uh-huh."},{"start":101,"end":104,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Then, you'd come home on Monday, you know?"},{"start":104,"end":106,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Yeah, that might be fun."},{"start":106,"end":110,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Mh-mm. Because you'd have Fina all day tomorrow to get things, you know, lined up."},{"start":110,"end":112,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Right."},{"start":112,"end":116,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"So, think it over, and you don't even have to decide until tomorrow."},{"start":116,"end":118,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Yeah, I might do that. That sounds nice."},{"start":118,"end":121,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Yeah. Okay, dear. I wanted to tell you before I left."},{"start":121,"end":122,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Okay."},{"start":122,"end":124,"speaker":"Nixon","text":"Okay, lots of love."},{"start":124,"end":125,"speaker":"Cox","text":"Lots of love, Mother. 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