{"conversationCode":"004-041","tapeNumber":4,"conversationNumber":41,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-004-041","startDateTime":"1971-06-05T00:03:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-05T00:05:00.000Z","startDate":"4-Jun-1971","startTime":"8:03 PM","endDate":"4-Jun-1971","endTime":"8:05 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On June 4, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 8:03 pm to 8:05 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 004-041 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 4-41\n\nDate: June 4, 1971\nTime: 8:03 pm - 8:05 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n     Bryce N. Harlow\n\n     Spiro T. Agnew delegation\n\n     Haldeman's forthcoming call to Harlow, Hugh Scott, Gale W. McGee","filename":["004-041.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:09:48","tapeEnd":"02:11:11","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"004-040","nextCode":"004-042","transcript":[{"start":0.89,"end":1.77,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.87,"end":2.13,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":2.71,"end":19.06,"text":"I was wondering if, just working in a little scheme here, if we could maybe get Agnew to, if we could name Harlow to that delegation and then have him go on around with him."},{"start":20.3,"end":23.11,"text":"I have in mind the fact that, you know."},{"start":23.55,"end":24.61,"text":"Yeah, that's a good idea."},{"start":24.81,"end":25.35,"text":"You see what I mean?"},{"start":25.49,"end":26.01,"text":"I sure do."},{"start":27.15,"end":29.52,"text":"I wondered if you would call Harlow..."},{"start":30.07,"end":56.26,"text":"and tell him that we'd like to do it and then you know that i'd like to name him to the delegation and then see if he thinks we could he wants how he wants to approach it with the vice president see i get he is choosing his well he's naming he's naming scott and mcgee but i can name anybody i want you know and i could send her price very well and i think agnew should be delighted and then then if he go on around with him he can"},{"start":56.68,"end":61.45,"text":"You know, talk to him and get his confidence about a lot of things."},{"start":61.47,"end":62.33,"text":"Want to follow up on it?"},{"start":62.75,"end":63.23,"text":"Sure will."},{"start":63.71,"end":64.73,"text":"It's a darn good idea."},{"start":65.35,"end":65.61,"text":"Okay."},{"start":66.97,"end":67.85,"text":"Okay."},{"start":67.87,"end":70.03,"text":"You just kind of wonder turning him loose."},{"start":70.05,"end":75.04,"text":"Yeah, right now, I think he needs a little somebody to sort of confide in."},{"start":76.22,"end":78.9,"text":"But, Steve, would you mind checking with Bryce?"},{"start":78.92,"end":80.04,"text":"No, no, I'd be glad to."},{"start":80.38,"end":81.06,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":81.5,"end":82.22,"text":"Bye."},{"start":82.25,"end":82.81,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs H. R. Haldeman to coordinate the appointment of Bryce N. Harlow to a delegation accompanying Vice President Spiro Agnew. The President intends for Harlow to act as a confidant and informal advisor to Agnew during the trip. Haldeman agrees to the plan and commits to contacting Harlow, along with Senators Hugh Scott and Gale W. McGee, to organize the details.","topics":["Spiro T. Agnew","Bryce N. Harlow","Presidential appointments","Political strategy","White House delegation"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T21:43:53.904Z"},"topicSlugs":["spiro-t-agnew","bryce-n-harlow","presidential-appointments","political-strategy","white-house-delegation"],"audioDurationSec":84,"audioFiles":[{"file":"004-041.mp3","bytes":1028833,"durationSec":83.92,"bitrate":98075,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.078Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/004-041.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/004-041","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/4/conversation-004-041","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}