{"conversationCode":"004-065","tapeNumber":4,"conversationNumber":65,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-004-065","startDateTime":"1971-06-07T21:21:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-07T21:22:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Jun-1971","startTime":"5:21 PM","endDate":"7-Jun-1971","endTime":"5:22 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On June 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone from 5:21 pm to 5:22 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 004-065 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 4-65\n\nDate: June 7, 1971\nTime: 5:21 pm - 5:22 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Rose Mary Woods.\n\n[See Conversation No. 513-7B]\n\n     Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson\n          -Religious affiliation\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 03/23/2022.\n10s segment cleared for release. 6s remain closed as 004-065-w001.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[004-065-w001]\n[Duration: 10s]\n\n      President's schedule\n             -June 7, 1971\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal Returnable]\n[004-065-w001]\n[Duration: 6s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n      President’s schedule\n             -June 7, 1971\n                     -Timing\n                     -Raymond K. Price Jr.\n                     -Rose Mary Woods\n\n**********************************************************************","filename":["004-065.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:41:56","tapeEnd":"02:42:28","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"004-064","nextCode":"004-066","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":0.97,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.55,"end":1.75,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":2.02,"end":7.99,"text":"Check to see whether, would you, Jackson, whether he's a Catholic or Protestant."},{"start":8.01,"end":9.75,"text":"Which, you mean Henry Jackson?"},{"start":9.77,"end":10.01,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":10.53,"end":11.24,"text":"Or do you know?"},{"start":11.4,"end":13.8,"text":"I'm quite sure he's a Protestant, but I can double check it."},{"start":14.06,"end":17.35,"text":"I just, well, just checking the, you know, you've got one of those directors."},{"start":17.37,"end":17.55,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":32.3,"end":32.89,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, to verify the religious affiliation of Senator Henry “Scoop” Jackson. Nixon requested this information to confirm whether Jackson was Catholic or Protestant, likely for political or strategic vetting purposes. Woods indicated she believed Jackson was Protestant but agreed to investigate further to provide a definitive answer.","topics":["Henry M. Jackson","Religious affiliation","Presidential scheduling","Political vetting","Rose Mary Woods"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T21:46:04.177Z"},"topicSlugs":["henry-m-jackson","religious-affiliation","presidential-scheduling","political-vetting","rose-mary-woods"],"audioDurationSec":33,"audioFiles":[{"file":"004-065.mp3","bytes":394058,"durationSec":33.41,"bitrate":94348,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.077Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/004-065.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/004-065","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/4/conversation-004-065","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}