{"conversationCode":"004-084","tapeNumber":4,"conversationNumber":84,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-004-084","startDateTime":"1971-06-09T13:23:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-09T13:25:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Jun-1971","startTime":"9:23 AM","endDate":"9-Jun-1971","endTime":"9:25 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Butterfield, Alexander P.;","description":"On June 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield talked on the telephone from 9:23 am to 9:25 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 004-084 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 4-84\n\nDate: June 9, 1971\nTime: 9:23 am - 9:25 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Alexander P. Butterfield.\n\n[See Conversation No. 255-30A]\n\n     Willy Brandt dinner list\n          -Composition\n               -Charles W. Colson’s suggestions\n          -Preparation","filename":["004-084.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:17:05","tapeEnd":"03:18:00","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Butterfield, Alexander P."],"prevCode":"004-083","nextCode":"004-085","transcript":[{"start":0.93,"end":1.81,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.31,"end":6.25,"text":"Did you get that Brant dinner list finished?"},{"start":6.83,"end":8.1,"text":"Brant dinner list, yes, sir."},{"start":8.32,"end":8.94,"text":"It is finished."},{"start":9.2,"end":9.42,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":9.58,"end":12.7,"text":"Now, did you add business people, I mean, supporter types and so forth?"},{"start":12.72,"end":13.5,"text":"Yes, sir, we did."},{"start":13.56,"end":16.67,"text":"Well, I filled it in with Colson's suggestions."},{"start":17.01,"end":17.35,"text":"Oh, good."},{"start":17.61,"end":19.45,"text":"And we will fill those seats."},{"start":19.51,"end":21.45,"text":"Incidentally, there's 62 of those big chairs."},{"start":21.74,"end":23.06,"text":"That's exactly what I want them done."},{"start":23.08,"end":26.64,"text":"For any of those in the future, we'll use the big chairs and have 62 people."},{"start":26.66,"end":27.22,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":27.24,"end":29.45,"text":"And not so overloaded with state and..."},{"start":29.43,"end":31.11,"text":"and all that sort of people."},{"start":31.17,"end":32.61,"text":"This time we've invited a lot of them."},{"start":32.63,"end":35.55,"text":"Yeah, it already had a head start on the government people, which is too bad."},{"start":35.61,"end":39.22,"text":"We had some poor guidelines, I guess, on that, but I think we've rectified the situation."},{"start":39.44,"end":40.66,"text":"Yeah, I understand, I understand."},{"start":40.68,"end":50.65,"text":"It was just perfectly right this time, but in the future, just have the usual few number of government people, because figuring that nothing, that it's pure therapy and nothing is going to be discussed."},{"start":50.87,"end":51.71,"text":"Yes, sir, sure."},{"start":51.91,"end":52.95,"text":"Yeah, all right, fine."},{"start":53.27,"end":54.46,"text":"All right, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Alexander P. Butterfield discussed the guest list for an upcoming dinner with West German Chancellor Willy Brandt. Nixon expressed dissatisfaction with the overrepresentation of government officials, ordering that future events prioritize business supporters instead to ensure a more favorable atmosphere. Butterfield confirmed that Charles Colson’s suggestions had been integrated to rectify the current list and agreed to limit state personnel in future guest planning.","topics":["Willy Brandt","Guest lists","Charles Colson","White House social events","Political strategy"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T21:47:45.093Z"},"topicSlugs":["willy-brandt","guest-lists","charles-colson","white-house-social-events","political-strategy"],"audioDurationSec":57,"audioFiles":[{"file":"004-084.mp3","bytes":705828,"durationSec":57.33,"bitrate":98487,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:20.571Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/004-084.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/004-084","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/4/conversation-004-084","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}