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Nixon phone call with Haig on Pentagon Papers and New York Times

Sunday, June 13, 1971 · 12:18 PM–12:42 PM ET · White House Telephone · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haig, Alexander M., Jr.Conversation005-050 on Tape 5 (tape position 01:24:33–01:26:52)StartSunday, June 13, 1971 at 12:18 PMEndSunday, June 13, 1971 at 12:42 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 005-050 ↗

President Richard Nixon and General Alexander Haig discussed the publication of the Pentagon Papers by the New York Times, characterizing the leak as a massive security breach. Haig suggested the documents were likely stolen during the transition from the Johnson administration, aiming to influence the Hatfield-Mansfield Amendment vote. Nixon expressed frustration over the security failure and speculated that the internal Democratic discord caused by the documents might ultimately damage the reputations of Kennedy and Johnson.

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Hello.
General Haig, sir.
Hello.
Yes, sir.
Hi, Al.
What about the casualties last week?
You got the figure yet?
No, sir, but I think it's going to be quite low.
It should be as last week or better.
Yeah, it should be less than 20.
20, I would think, yeah.
When do you get that?
Do you, would you know?
We don't get it officially until Monday afternoon, but we can get a reading on it.
Right, well, Monday afternoon, officially.
Well, let's wait till then.
Fine.
Okay.
Nothing else of interest in the world?
Yes, sir.
Very significant, this goddamn New York Times expose of the most highly classified documents of the war.
Oh, that.
I see.
I didn't read the story, but you mean that was leaked out of the Pentagon?
Sir, the whole study that was done for McNamara and then carried on after McNamara left by Clifford and the peaceniks over there, this is a devastating security breach of
of the greatest magnitude of anything I've ever seen.
Well, what's being done about it then?
I mean, I didn't... Did we know this was coming out?
No, we did not, sir.
Yeah.
There are just a few copies of this.
But what about the... Volume report.
But what about the... Let me ask you this, though.
What about Laird?
What's he going to do about it?
Now, I'd just start right at the top and fire some people.
I mean, whatever department it came out of, I'd fire the top guy.
Well, I'm sure it came from defense, and I'm sure it was stolen at the time of the turnover of the administration.
Oh, it's two years old then.
I'm sure it is, and they've been holding it for a juicy time, and I think they've thrown it out to affect Hatfield McGovern.
That's my own estimate.
But it's something that is a mixed bag.
It's a tough attack on Kennedy.
It shows that the genesis of the war really occurred.
Yeah, that's Clifford.
I see.
And it's brutal on President Johnson.
They're going to end up in a massive gut fight in the Democratic Party on this thing.
Are they?
But also massive against the war.
Against the war.
But it's a Pentagon study, huh?

On June 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 12:18 pm and 12:42 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 005-050 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 5-50

Date: June 13, 1971
Time: Unknown between 12:18 pm and 12:42 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Gen. Alexander M. Haig, Jr.

[See Conversation No. 256-31F]

     Vietnam War
          -Weekly casualty figures
          -Pentagon Papers
               -New York Times expose
               -Leak
               -Robert S. McNamara, Clark M. Clifford
               -Administration response
               -Possible time of theft
               -Hatfield-Mansfield Amendment
               -Reflection on John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson
               -Effect

[The conversation was cut off at an unknown time before 12:42 pm]
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Conversation 005-050, June 13, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/005-050 (accessed October 12, 2026).