{"conversationCode":"005-065","tapeNumber":5,"conversationNumber":65,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-005-065","startDateTime":"1971-06-14T20:33:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-14T20:34:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Jun-1971","startTime":"4:33 PM","endDate":"14-Jun-1971","endTime":"4:34 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose Mary;","description":"On June 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone from 4:33 pm to 4:34 pm. 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Sargent Reynolds\n                -Linwood Holton\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 20s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n     President's schedule\n          -Meeting with [David] Kenneth Rush","filename":["005-065.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:06:10","tapeEnd":"02:07:35","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Woods, Rose Mary"],"prevCode":"005-064","nextCode":"005-066","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":2.43,"text":"Hello."},{"start":2.45,"end":2.97,"text":"Hello."},{"start":2.99,"end":3.29,"text":"Rose?"},{"start":3.39,"end":3.77,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":4.7,"end":6.02,"text":"Any development situation over there?"},{"start":6.74,"end":8.26,"text":"No, I haven't heard any more yet."},{"start":8.4,"end":12.68,"text":"I have a good reason for calling, and then I'll say that I just heard you had to stay."},{"start":12.7,"end":12.82,"text":"Fine."},{"start":13.78,"end":19.01,"text":"Well, I'm going into the railroad meeting, union meeting, so I'll be back, and I'll call you in about 45 minutes."},{"start":19.57,"end":25.35,"text":"All right, and then one thing I wanted to ask you, you know, because that Lieutenant Governor Reynolds was... Yeah."},{"start":25.37,"end":28.64,"text":"I really think maybe we should send flowers for that, don't you?"},{"start":29.31,"end":30.47,"text":"He's only 34."},{"start":30.93,"end":31.99,"text":"He's a Democrat, of course."},{"start":32.58,"end":33.68,"text":"Well, I know he's a Democrat."},{"start":33.7,"end":34.7,"text":"But it's perfectly all right."},{"start":34.76,"end":37.26,"text":"He's that very wealthy Reynolds family."},{"start":37.34,"end":38.42,"text":"But it's perfectly all right."},{"start":38.47,"end":39.05,"text":"Sure, it should be."},{"start":39.27,"end":40.11,"text":"Something should be said."},{"start":40.13,"end":41.69,"text":"And Hope put out a beautiful statement on him."},{"start":41.75,"end":44.3,"text":"I just thought maybe flowers pay off in the long run."},{"start":44.45,"end":44.82,"text":"Of course."},{"start":44.84,"end":45.72,"text":"That sounds political."},{"start":45.74,"end":46.54,"text":"We should always should."},{"start":46.58,"end":47.32,"text":"Always should."},{"start":47.4,"end":48.1,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":48.12,"end":48.8,"text":"And fine."},{"start":66.86,"end":69.38,"text":"Yeah, okay."},{"start":69.4,"end":69.72,"text":"Okay."},{"start":69.85,"end":70.21,"text":"Okay."},{"start":70.47,"end":71.99,"text":"And just call and then let me know."},{"start":73.32,"end":75.83,"text":"Well, if she sounds like you ought to be there, do you want me to let you know?"},{"start":75.84,"end":77.11,"text":"Well, I'll talk to you."},{"start":77.13,"end":77.93,"text":"Oh, not that I ought to be."},{"start":78.01,"end":80.08,"text":"I'm not going over because, you know, I can't."},{"start":80.12,"end":80.76,"text":"I am now."},{"start":80.84,"end":81.82,"text":"I am tied up now."},{"start":82.02,"end":83.47,"text":"And I got Russian at 6 o'clock."},{"start":83.59,"end":84.71,"text":"Yes, I saw that."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and his personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods, discussed administrative scheduling matters and a gesture of condolence. They agreed that the White House should send flowers for the funeral of Lieutenant Governor J. Sargent Reynolds, a Democrat, to maintain positive political optics. Additionally, Nixon coordinated his upcoming schedule, including a meeting with union officials and a subsequent 6:00 p.m. appointment with Kenneth Rush.","topics":["Rose Mary Woods","J. 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