Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 5 › Conversation 005-115

Nixon phone call with Colson on Pentagon Papers and Lyndon B. Johnson

Thursday, June 17, 1971 · 6:55 PM–6:56 PM ET · White House Telephone · 44 sec

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.Conversation005-115 on Tape 5 (tape position 03:33:51–03:34:35)StartThursday, June 17, 1971 at 6:55 PMEndThursday, June 17, 1971 at 6:56 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 005-115 ↗

President Nixon instructed Charles Colson to deliver an ultimatum to former President Lyndon B. Johnson regarding the ongoing controversy surrounding the Pentagon Papers. Nixon informed Colson that he would only publicly defend Johnson during an upcoming press engagement in Rochester if Johnson concurrently committed to defending himself during his own scheduled press conference. Colson agreed to relay this demand immediately via Bryce Harlow to ensure Nixon received an answer by that evening.

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Yes, sir, Mr. President.
I want a straight ultimatum put to Johnson.
All right, sir.
And the ultimatum is this, that tomorrow in Rochester I'll have 200 of the Washington press corps covering me.
I am prepared to defend him and the system and the rest, but I cannot do it unless he is prepared to go on Saturday in a press conference to defend himself.
I cannot, otherwise I've just got to let the chips fall where they may.
Mm-hmm.
I need to know.
I need to know tonight.
I'm preparing the press conference.
Is that clear?
Yes, sir.
I have reached Bryce, and he's on a line holding for me, so I'll give it to him as direct and try to get him through right away.
That's it.
I'll get back to you, sir.

On June 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 6:55 pm to 6:56 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 005-115 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 5-115

Date: June 17, 1971
Time: 6:55 pm - 6:56 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

[See Conversation No. 261-18]

     Pentagon Papers
          -Ultimatum to Lyndon B. Johnson
          -President's possible defense of Johnson in Rochester, June 18th
          -Johnson's defense of himself
          -Bryce N. Harlow
  • 261-016 6:17 PM · 23 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Rose Mary Woods, Ronald L. Ziegler, and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:17 pm to 6:46 pm.
  • 005-113 6:38 PM · 7 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 6:38 pm to 6:45 pm.
  • 005-114 6:45 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:45 pm and 6:55 pm.
  • 261-017 6:46 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:46 pm and 6:55 pm.
  • 258-031 6:55 PM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:55 pm and 9:29 pm.
  • 261-018 6:55 PM · 28 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 6:55 pm to 6:56 pm.
  • 005-116 6:56 PM · 6 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 6:56 pm and 7:39 pm.
  • 261-019 6:56 PM · 2 min — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building at an unknown time between 6:56 pm and 7:39 pm.

Conversation 005-115, June 17, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/005-115 (accessed October 5, 2026).