{"conversationCode":"005-120","tapeNumber":5,"conversationNumber":120,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-005-120","startDateTime":"1971-06-18T00:10:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-18T00:11:00.000Z","startDate":"17-Jun-1971","startTime":"8:10 PM","endDate":"17-Jun-1971","endTime":"8:11 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On June 17, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 8:10 pm to 8:11 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 005-120 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 5-120\n\nDate: June 17, 1971\nTime: 8:10 pm - 8:11 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Charles W. Colson.\n\n     Lyndon B. Johnson's location\n         -Bryce N. Harlow\n\n     Henry A. Kissinger's attempt to call Walt W. Rostow","filename":["005-120.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:40:11","tapeEnd":"03:41:01","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"005-119","nextCode":"005-121","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":1.41,"text":"Mr. Colson."},{"start":1.43,"end":4.4,"text":"I thought I should report, Mr. President, Bryce is sitting with me."},{"start":4.48,"end":8.3,"text":"He has thus far been unable to reach LBJ."},{"start":8.36,"end":10.44,"text":"He's out for the evening and won't be back until 1130."},{"start":11.9,"end":16.21,"text":"We've decided best that he not talk to anyone else until he can get him personally."},{"start":17.21,"end":23.34,"text":"And Henry's trying to reach Rostow, which will be another front to hit it on."},{"start":23.82,"end":29.95,"text":"Well, we'll see what they want to do, but... Well, Bryce has the message very well."},{"start":30.01,"end":35.56,"text":"Yeah, well, we just do the best we can, and if they want to play, we understand we'll have to do what we have to do."},{"start":35.96,"end":39.91,"text":"Well, the reason for my call back to you, we won't be able to get back to you tonight."},{"start":39.97,"end":41.03,"text":"I think it was 11.30 that..."},{"start":41.05,"end":41.75,"text":"I understand."},{"start":41.85,"end":45.52,"text":"But first thing in the morning, we should be able to report back on his reaction."},{"start":45.84,"end":45.94,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":46.36,"end":46.94,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":47.02,"end":47.22,"text":"Fine."},{"start":47.28,"end":48.5,"text":"Thank you, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss efforts to coordinate outreach to former President Lyndon B. Johnson and Walt W. Rostow, facilitated by Bryce Harlow. The primary objective is to deliver a specific message to Johnson, but the team encounters delays in reaching him. They decide to wait until the following morning to establish direct contact, ensuring the message is delivered by someone with the appropriate standing.","topics":["Lyndon B. Johnson","Bryce N. Harlow","Walt W. Rostow","Political outreach","Henry Kissinger"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:01:02.497Z"},"topicSlugs":["lyndon-b-johnson","bryce-n-harlow","walt-w-rostow","political-outreach","henry-kissinger"],"audioDurationSec":49,"audioFiles":[{"file":"005-120.mp3","bytes":558225,"durationSec":49.22,"bitrate":90740,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.078Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/005-120.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/005-120","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/5/conversation-005-120","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}