Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 5 › Conversation 005-133

Nixon phone call with Delbazo on Mike Mansfield and H.R. Haldeman

Wednesday, June 23, 1971 · 9:22 AM–9:25 AM ET · White House Telephone · 2 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Delbazo, Mary JaneConversation005-133 on Tape 5 (tape position 04:07:20–04:09:02)StartWednesday, June 23, 1971 at 9:22 AMEndWednesday, June 23, 1971 at 9:25 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 005-133 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon consulted with Mary Jane Delbalzo, secretary to Senator Mike Mansfield, to coordinate a potential presidential visit to Montana. Nixon requested that the Senator’s staff communicate with H.R. Haldeman to finalize the logistics, timing, and nature of the event, which was likely a dedication ceremony. This coordination was intended to align the Montana trip with the President’s broader upcoming travel schedule throughout the Western United States, which included dedications for various infrastructure projects.

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Hello.
Mrs. DiBalzo, his secretary.
Hello.
All right.
Hello.
Good morning, Mr. President.
Hi.
When I talked to the senator this morning, I forgot to mention one thing that he and I had chatted about before that I'd like you to mention to him.
All right.
We, you know, he's been talking to me about making a stop in Montana, you know, this summer.
And I'm just sitting here talking to Mr. Haldeman about my August schedule.
in which I will be in the West on occasion.
And if you would just mention to the Senator, and I know you'll probably do it with one of you or one of the staff people, if they could let one of our people talk to Mr. Holloman about when would be a good time, the place, and so forth.
I think he had a choice as to where he wanted me to come.
I think it's one of the...
some sort of a dedication or something, but he'll know what it's about, because we've talked about it before, and then it just slipped my mind.
Mr. Holloman.
Yeah, Mr. Holloman will be...
I'll have him give your office a call, and he can chat with you, and then you can assign him to whoever the senator is that will handle the arrangements on this, so that we can get three or four dates.
You see, I've got to go out.
I'm going west.
I've got one week set aside where I'm going to do...
I have to go to Wyoming and a few other states to do some dedications, dams, and so forth.
And I'd like to go to Montana on that occasion.
And so if we could get a few optional dates, then we'll go out.
But I want to be there when the senators can be there.
Okay?
I see.
Fine.
All right.
Thank you very much.
Thank you.
Pleasure to talk to you.

NARA Description

On June 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Mary Jane Delbazo talked on the telephone from 9:22 am to 9:25 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 005-133 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 5-133

Date: June 23, 1971
Time: 9:22 am - 9:25 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Mary Jane Delbalzo.

[See Conversation No. 527-16B]

     President's schedule
          -President's previous conversation with Michael J. ("Mike") Mansfield
                 -Trip to Montana
                       -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman's role
                 -President's schedule
                 -Trip to other western states

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 005-133, June 23, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/005-133 (accessed October 10, 2026).