{"conversationCode":"005-138","tapeNumber":5,"conversationNumber":138,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-005-138","startDateTime":"1971-06-23T15:04:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-23T18:39:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Jun-1971","startTime":"11:04 AM","endDate":"23-Jun-1971","endTime":"2:39 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On June 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:04 am and 2:39 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 005-138 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 5-138\n\nDate: June 23, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 11:04 am and 2:39 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 258-37]\n\n     F. Edward Hébert's location\n\n     Calls to Congressmen\n           -Pierre S. DuPont\n           -Charles S. Gubser\n           -Garry E. Brown","filename":["005-138.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:16:44","tapeEnd":"04:17:17","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"005-137","nextCode":"005-139","transcript":[{"start":1.26,"end":2.12,"text":"Hello."},{"start":2.14,"end":5.23,"text":"Sir, the office is locating Congressman A. Burton."},{"start":5.25,"end":7.29,"text":"They're going to call as soon as they can locate him."},{"start":7.31,"end":7.83,"text":"Fine."},{"start":7.87,"end":8.15,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":8.19,"end":20.04,"text":"Would you get Congressman Pierre DuPont of Delaware, and also I want to talk to Congressman Goobser, Charles Goobser of California."},{"start":20.74,"end":21.2,"text":"All right."},{"start":21.22,"end":23.75,"text":"G-U-B-S-E-R. All right."},{"start":23.77,"end":29.11,"text":"And Congressman Gary Brown, G-A-R-R-Y Brown of Michigan."},{"start":29.87,"end":31.33,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":31.35,"end":31.96,"text":"Okay."},{"start":31.98,"end":32.08,"text":"Sure."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon instructed the White House operator to place urgent telephone calls to several members of Congress, including Pierre S. DuPont, Charles S. Gubser, and Garry E. Brown. Additionally, the President inquired about the status of locating Congressman A. Burton to facilitate further communication. This administrative exchange served to coordinate Nixon's direct outreach to legislative officials for undisclosed purposes.","topics":["Richard Nixon","White House operator","Congressional outreach","Telephone communications","A. Burton","Pierre S. DuPont","Charles S. Gubser","Garry E. Brown"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:02:42.593Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-nixon","white-house-operator","congressional-outreach","telephone-communications","a-burton","pierre-s-dupont","charles-s-gubser","garry-e-brown"],"audioDurationSec":33,"audioFiles":[{"file":"005-138.mp3","bytes":409440,"durationSec":32.88,"bitrate":99618,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.078Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/005-138.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/005-138","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/5/conversation-005-138","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}