Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 005-141
Date: Wednesday, June 23, 1971 at 2:46 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Gubser, Charles S.
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/005-141

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[0:01] Hello.
[0:01] I'm Congressman Goop, sir.
[0:03] Okay.
[0:04] On the line, sir.
[0:06] Hello.
[0:06] Hello.
[0:07] Charlie, I just called to tell you that I was talking to Jerry a couple days ago, and he was telling me how really effective you were in the caucus on that resolution.
[0:17] And also, I've been thinking I'd see you sometime to tell you that...
[0:22] I realize your neighbor over there causing a little trouble, and I don't want you to get embarrassed by having to take him on.
[0:29] Mr. President, that's what I'm going to do on Saturday.
[0:32] Where are you going to be?
[0:33] Out in California?
[0:34] In his district.
[0:36] I tell you, I have asked some way of Mr. Klein's staff to help me on the speech, and I've got him dead to rights.
[0:47] What kind of issue do you want to hit?
[0:49] Well, I want to prove that he is totally misrepresenting the facts when he says that we're engaged in an indiscriminate policy of bombing Laos.
[1:01] Well, he is.
[1:01] That's all I'm going to talk about.
[1:02] All right.
[1:03] And I've proved my case.
[1:04] In fact, Shumway had a copy of it.
[1:06] All right.
[1:07] I'm going to take him on.
[1:10] I'm sick and tired of a man downgrading his country just for his own political advantage.
[1:15] That's what he's doing, too.
[1:16] And he knows better.
[1:18] I would like sometime to get a copy of that speech in your hands.
[1:21] I don't know.
[1:22] I think I'll send it down to Mr. Shumway, and it'll probably get it.
[1:26] Yeah, it will, Senator Shumway, but are you satisfied with it?
[1:31] Do you want any more dope?
[1:32] I don't know.
[1:33] I worked for two weeks on it.
[1:34] No, no, no.
[1:35] You've got enough.
[1:36] Sullivan has helped me and everyone has helped me.
[1:38] Well, and you've got a speech.
[1:39] Well, Sullivan knows it better than anybody I know.
[1:42] I've got an airtight case, too.
[1:44] All right.
[1:44] and send me a copy, will you?
[1:46] I certainly will.
[1:49] And I'll get a copy of it.
[1:50] I want to know.
[1:50] But in the meantime, that's good country up there.
[1:53] One day I'll come in.
[1:55] Good.
[1:55] And Pete, I don't know, he's emotional and everything, but the guy knows better, you know.
[1:59] He's too smart.
[2:00] The man has flipped his lid.
[2:01] He's like the fellow from Michigan, Regal.
[2:04] They're sort of two of a kind, aren't they?
[2:06] I know.
[2:07] They just get carried away with press exposure.
[2:11] Not a handle.
[2:12] They love that TV.
[2:14] Yeah.
[2:15] Okay.
[2:15] We appreciate your calling.
[2:16] Well, anyway, I appreciate it.
[2:18] I just want you to know we don't overlook those things.
[2:22] Well, I appreciate that very much.
[2:24] I'll keep fighting.
[2:25] You bet you will.
[2:26] Bye.
[2:26] Bye-bye.