{"conversationCode":"005-148","tapeNumber":5,"conversationNumber":148,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-005-148","startDateTime":"1971-06-23T19:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-23T19:25:00.000Z","startDate":"23-Jun-1971","startTime":"3:25 PM","endDate":"23-Jun-1971","endTime":"3:25 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On June 23, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 3:25 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 005-148 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 5-148\n\nDate: June 23, 1971\nTime: 3:25 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 258-48]\n\n     J. Phillip Campbell's location\n\n     Call to Michael McGreevey","filename":["005-148.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:28:56","tapeEnd":"04:29:33","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"005-147","nextCode":"005-149","transcript":[{"start":0.1,"end":1.38,"text":"Yeah?"},{"start":1.58,"end":4.82,"text":"Mr. President, Under Secretary Philip Campbell is in Wisconsin today."},{"start":4.86,"end":6.71,"text":"He's expected back in the office on Monday."},{"start":7.17,"end":8.11,"text":"Should I try to reach him?"},{"start":9.73,"end":12.35,"text":"Well, if he's, yeah, if it's convenient, you can reach him."},{"start":12.37,"end":12.59,"text":"Fine, sir."},{"start":12.61,"end":13.86,"text":"And if not, I'll talk to him Monday."},{"start":13.89,"end":14.4,"text":"Fine, sir."},{"start":14.42,"end":15.98,"text":"I'll try to reach him."},{"start":16,"end":16.36,"text":"Operator?"},{"start":16.66,"end":17.02,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":17.4,"end":21,"text":"Could you get, I had a call for a Mr. McGreevy in California."},{"start":21.06,"end":22.33,"text":"Could you get him, please?"},{"start":22.54,"end":24.43,"text":"Do you have the call place, Mr. President?"},{"start":24.83,"end":26.17,"text":"Michael McGreevy."},{"start":26.83,"end":30.72,"text":"We tried him a few days ago, and now you have, I understand, have found his number."},{"start":30.86,"end":31.29,"text":"Signed, sir."},{"start":31.3,"end":32.21,"text":"I think we have it on file."},{"start":32.51,"end":33.35,"text":"McGreevy, yeah."},{"start":33.55,"end":34.27,"text":"Yes, thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with the White House operator to coordinate outreach to two individuals. He inquired about the availability of Under Secretary J. Phillip Campbell, who was traveling in Wisconsin, and requested that the operator locate and connect a call to Michael McGreevey in California. The President established a contingency to speak with Campbell on the following Monday if he could not be reached immediately.","topics":["Communication logistics","J. Phillip Campbell","Michael McGreevey","White House operations","Scheduling"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:03:37.147Z"},"topicSlugs":["communication-logistics","j-phillip-campbell","michael-mcgreevey","white-house-operations","scheduling"],"audioDurationSec":36,"audioFiles":[{"file":"005-148.mp3","bytes":452813,"durationSec":36.37,"bitrate":99593,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.078Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/005-148.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/005-148","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/5/conversation-005-148","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}