{"conversationCode":"005-163","tapeNumber":5,"conversationNumber":163,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-005-163","startDateTime":"1971-06-27T23:44:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-28T00:13:00.000Z","startDate":"27-Jun-1971","startTime":"7:44 PM","endDate":"27-Jun-1971","endTime":"8:13 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Kissinger, Henry A.;","description":"On June 27, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Henry A. Kissinger talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:44 pm and 8:13 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 005-163 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 5-163\n\nDate: June 27, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 7:44 pm and 8:13 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\n     Call from Henry A. Kissinger\n\n     Call to William F. (“Billy”) Graham\n\nKissinger talked with the President between 8:13 and 8:14 pm.\n\n     Kissinger's schedule\n          -President","filename":["005-163.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:52:26","tapeEnd":"04:52:57","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Kissinger, Henry A."],"prevCode":"005-162","nextCode":"005-164","transcript":[{"start":0.08,"end":3.75,"text":"Mr. Kissinger calling you, Mr. President."},{"start":3.91,"end":4.05,"text":"Hello."},{"start":4.09,"end":5.35,"text":"Mr. Kissinger calling you, sir."},{"start":5.53,"end":6.03,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":6.07,"end":9.28,"text":"Would you, hello, operator, would you hold that call to Graham?"},{"start":9.78,"end":10.98,"text":"I just placed one to Graham."},{"start":11,"end":11.64,"text":"Would you hold that?"},{"start":11.96,"end":12.08,"text":"Sure."},{"start":12.2,"end":12.54,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":12.66,"end":13.08,"text":"Fine."},{"start":13.1,"end":13.6,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":13.72,"end":14.82,"text":"And you'll speak with Mr. Kissinger?"},{"start":14.85,"end":15.13,"text":"Yes."},{"start":15.49,"end":15.59,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":16.21,"end":18.45,"text":"Operator, what's going on?"},{"start":18.47,"end":18.75,"text":"Mr. President?"},{"start":18.77,"end":19.41,"text":"Mr. President?"},{"start":19.49,"end":20.83,"text":"Yeah, hello, Henry."},{"start":20.85,"end":21.52,"text":"You in your office?"},{"start":21.68,"end":22.7,"text":"Yeah, I just got back."},{"start":22.72,"end":24.6,"text":"I'm over at the Oval Office."},{"start":25.02,"end":25.22,"text":"All right."},{"start":25.24,"end":26.94,"text":"Do you want me to come by?"},{"start":26.96,"end":27.5,"text":"Sure."},{"start":27.52,"end":27.62,"text":"Yeah."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Henry Kissinger coordinate a brief, in-person meeting at the Oval Office. During this exchange, the President instructs the White House operator to delay a pending call to Billy Graham in favor of speaking with Kissinger. The discussion concludes with an agreement for Kissinger to arrive at the office shortly.","topics":["Oval Office","Henry Kissinger","Scheduling","Billy Graham","White House communications"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:04:58.802Z"},"topicSlugs":["oval-office","henry-kissinger","scheduling","billy-graham","white-house-communications"],"audioDurationSec":30,"audioFiles":[{"file":"005-163.mp3","bytes":371396,"durationSec":29.98,"bitrate":99104,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.078Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/005-163.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/005-163","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/5/conversation-005-163","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}