{"conversationCode":"005-164","tapeNumber":5,"conversationNumber":164,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-005-164","startDateTime":"1971-06-28T14:21:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-28T15:46:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Jun-1971","startTime":"10:21 AM","endDate":"28-Jun-1971","endTime":"11:46 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On June 28, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:21 am and 11:46 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 005-164 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 5-164\n\nDate: June 28, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 10:21 am and 11:46 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 529-22]\n\n     Asked for Donald G. Brotzman","filename":["005-164.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:52:57","tapeEnd":"04:53:08","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"005-163","nextCode":"005-165","transcript":[{"start":3.74,"end":4.45,"text":"please?"},{"start":4.47,"end":7.18,"text":"Mr. Donald, Congressman Donald Brotsman, please."},{"start":7.58,"end":7.94,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":7.98,"end":8.73,"text":"Colorado."},{"start":8.79,"end":9.47,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":9.49,"end":10.5,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon directs the White House operator to place an outgoing call to Congressman Donald G. Brotzman of Colorado. This brief interaction serves as a logistical bridge to initiate official communication with the Representative. No further policy discussions or substantive developments occur during this brief exchange.","topics":["Donald G. Brotzman","Congressman","White House operator","Communication logistics"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:05:04.084Z"},"topicSlugs":["donald-g-brotzman","congressman","white-house-operator","communication-logistics"],"audioDurationSec":11,"audioFiles":[{"file":"005-164.mp3","bytes":137401,"durationSec":11.11,"bitrate":98925,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.078Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/005-164.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/005-164","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/5/conversation-005-164","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}