Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 5 › Conversation 005-165

Nixon phone call with Brotzman on Birthday and Golf

Monday, June 28, 1971 · 11:46 AM–11:47 AM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Brotzman, Donald G.Conversation005-165 on Tape 5 (tape position 04:53:08–04:54:29)StartMonday, June 28, 1971 at 11:46 AMEndMonday, June 28, 1971 at 11:47 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 005-165 ↗

AI Summary

President Nixon initiated this call to wish Congressman Donald Brotzman a happy 50th birthday and engage in casual conversation regarding Brotzman’s recent golf outing at the Greenbrier. The discussion briefly transitioned to substantive legislative business, with Brotzman informing the President that he and his colleagues were actively working on the administration's revenue sharing program. The President expressed appreciation for these efforts and his optimism regarding the potential passage of a viable bill.

Audio

Download MP3 · 1.0 MB

Transcript (AI-generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Names and numbers are often wrong; speakers are not identified. Do not cite it as authoritative — verify against the audio and the finding aid.

Download transcript (.txt) · JSON data

· Click a timestamp to play from that point; the page address then links to that moment (e.g. #t=125).
Hello.
Congressman Brotsman, sir.
On the line.
Hello.
Hi, Don.
Yes, sir.
I just wanted you to know that McGregor was just telling me that you'd better celebrate because when you're 50, that's a hell of an old age.
Right.
So never get any older than 49.
Mr. President, you're great.
You don't look that old and you don't feel that old, do you?
No, I feel just wonderful.
That's right.
You know, I played a little golf this weekend.
We had an invitation down to Greenbrier, Louisa.
Oh, did you?
Yeah.
I even broke 90.
Would you believe that?
You're not working hard enough.
You know who's characterized me?
I saw down there, Mr. Preston.
Give up the game.
Yeah.
I saw yours.
Yeah, with Sam Snead, probably.
That's right.
It was Sam Snead.
You know, that was the first time I ever broke 100 was at the Greenbrier.
And I eventually got down as low as 83, and then I quit.
But it's a great game.
And which course do you play, the lower or the upper?
You played all three of them, actually.
All three.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You played the old white is the toughest.
The old white is the toughest.
It's the longest.
But that Greenbrier course is fun.
We're over here working this morning on your revenue sharing program.
Oh, great.
Well, I appreciate it, Bill.
I think we're going to be able to get some kind of a bill out that you can go for.
I hope so, too.
We're sure trying.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate it.

NARA Description

On June 28, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Donald G. Brotzman talked on the telephone from 11:46 am to 11:47 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 005-165 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 5-165

Date: June 28, 1971
Time: 11:46 am - 11:47 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Donald G. Brotzman.
[See Conversation No. 529-23A]

     Brotzman's birthday
          -President's conversation with Clark MacGregor

     Brotzman's golf game
          -Greenbriar golf course
          -Louise Brotzman
          -Sam Snead

     Revenue sharing program bill
         -John B. Connally

Also recorded on June 28, 1971

  • 529-022 11:38 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:38 am and 11:46 am.
  • 529-024 11:38 AM · 2 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 11:38 am and 11:46 am.
  • 529-023 11:39 AM · 1 hr 54 min — President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, Donald G. Brotzman, Henry A. Kissinger, White House operator, Peter M. Flanigan, Jack H. McDonald, unknown person(s), John B. Connally, John D. Ehrlichman, and Rose Mary Woods met in the Oval Office of the White House from 11:39 am to 1:40 pm.
  • 005-166 11:47 AM · 5 sec — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:47 am and 11:50 am.
  • 005-167 11:50 AM · 1 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Peter M. Flanigan, and H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 11:50 am to 11:51 am.
  • 005-168 11:51 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:51 am and 11:55 am.
  • 005-170 11:51 AM · 3 min — H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman, White House operator, Rose Mary Woods, and John B. Connally talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:51 am and 1:40 pm.
  • 006-001 11:51 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 11:51 am and 2:47 pm.

All 69 conversations from June 28, 1971 →

Cite this conversation

Conversation 005-165, June 28, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/005-165 (accessed October 11, 2026).