{"conversationCode":"006-005","tapeNumber":6,"conversationNumber":5,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-006-005","startDateTime":"1971-06-28T18:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-28T21:59:00.000Z","startDate":"28-Jun-1971","startTime":"2:50 PM","endDate":"28-Jun-1971","endTime":"5:59 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Butterfield, Alexander P.; White House operator; Buchanan, Patrick J.;","description":"On June 28, 1971, Alexander P. Butterfield, White House operator, and Patrick J. Buchanan talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 2:50 pm and 5:59 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 006-005 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 6-5\n\nDate: June 28, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 2:50 pm and 5:59 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nAlexander P. Butterfield talked with the White House operator.\n\n     Call to Patrick J. Buchanan\n\nButterfield talked with Buchanan.\n\n     Terry McGinnity\n          -Forthcoming meeting with Butterfield\n          -H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n          -Forthcoming meeting with the President","filename":["006-005.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:01:20","tapeEnd":"00:02:13","participantsList":["Butterfield, Alexander P.","White House operator","Buchanan, Patrick J."],"prevCode":"006-004","nextCode":"006-006","transcript":[{"start":0.84,"end":3.61,"text":"Yes, please."},{"start":3.63,"end":4.62,"text":"Buchanan Place, right away."},{"start":4.82,"end":5.18,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":25.14,"end":25.9,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":26.2,"end":26.38,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":26.4,"end":27.06,"text":"This is Alex."},{"start":27.08,"end":28.91,"text":"Very quickly, I'm about to take McGinnity in."},{"start":29.17,"end":30.07,"text":"What was your impression?"},{"start":30.09,"end":32.87,"text":"Were you impressed or moderately so?"},{"start":33.39,"end":35.73,"text":"Haldeman hadn't seen him yet, but I've got to give the president a quick..."},{"start":35.8,"end":36.94,"text":"He's going to see the president?"},{"start":37.06,"end":40.52,"text":"Yeah, just for a quick handshake, because we're at the end of a mini receiving line."},{"start":40.54,"end":41.36,"text":"That's the only reason."},{"start":42.16,"end":42.83,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":42.84,"end":44.89,"text":"I'm not overly impressed."},{"start":44.91,"end":48.33,"text":"I mean, he seems like an okay guy, but I don't think he's seen him yet."},{"start":48.35,"end":49.77,"text":"I mean, he's written one good letter."},{"start":50.22,"end":50.77,"text":"I see."},{"start":50.8,"end":50.94,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":50.96,"end":51.38,"text":"That's good."},{"start":51.42,"end":51.72,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":51.92,"end":52.62,"text":"All right."},{"start":52.64,"end":52.72,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Alexander P. Butterfield consulted Patrick J. Buchanan for a quick assessment of Terry McGinnity prior to McGinnity’s brief meeting with President Nixon. Buchanan characterized McGinnity as an \"okay guy\" but expressed a tepid level of enthusiasm, noting that he was not overly impressed. Butterfield sought this input to provide the President with a brief evaluation following the scheduled handshake in the receiving line.","topics":["Terry McGinnity","Alexander P. Butterfield","Patrick J. Buchanan","Presidential scheduling","H.R. Haldeman"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:06:08.893Z"},"topicSlugs":["terry-mcginnity","alexander-p-butterfield","patrick-j-buchanan","presidential-scheduling","h-r-haldeman"],"audioDurationSec":54,"audioFiles":[{"file":"006-005.mp3","bytes":1289996,"durationSec":53.66,"bitrate":192326,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.078Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/006-005.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/006-005","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/6/conversation-006-005","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}