Nixon White House Tapes › Tape 6 › Conversation 006-045

Nixon phone call with Goldwater on F. Edward Hébert and John Stennis

Wednesday, June 30, 1971 · 9:59 AM–10:00 AM ET · White House Telephone · 1 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Goldwater, Barry M.Conversation006-045 on Tape 6 (tape position 00:52:55–00:54:09)StartWednesday, June 30, 1971 at 9:59 AMEndWednesday, June 30, 1971 at 10:00 AMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 006-045 ↗

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President Nixon calls Senator Barry Goldwater to express appreciation for Goldwater's recent television appearance supporting the administration's position. The two discuss the political landscape in Congress, specifically praising Representative F. Edward Hébert for his steadfast leadership in the House of Representatives. Nixon emphasizes the importance of Hébert and Senator John Stennis in resisting legislative pressure during upcoming House-Senate conference negotiations.

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John Scali was telling me, Barry, I had known you didn't, but he told me what a
Really, on 30 minutes notice, how you went on that ABC program when McComber had to, on Monday, McComber had to do it, but I just wanted to thank you.
By golly, it's good to have one guy that'll go to bat and cloud them.
That's what we're down here for.
That's right.
Well, I'll tell you, stir up a few of your other guys to get the way.
Although, I'll tell you...
Isn't that house doing well, though, the way they voted the other way in that damn amendment?
Oh, my God, if it weren't for the House... And let me tell you, one of the great men over there, Barry, I hope you tell him when you see him, is Eddie Hebert.
God, he's like a rock.
Yep, he is.
He's like a rock, I'm telling you.
Thank God we have him, because the Senate is really going berserk.
Yeah, when you were...
Yesterday, the votes were all right, but when you're talking to Eddie sometime, you just might say that, boy, the... Because I really feel this.
Without him, we couldn't run this.
Eddie Hebert in the House, and, of course, John Stennis stands up in the Senate.
But Hebert just has told me, he says, by God, he's going to be like a rock in that conference until they knock out that date.
Well, they're going to do it, I think.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. President.

NARA Description

On June 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Barry M. Goldwater talked on the telephone from 9:59 am to 10:00 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 006-045 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid

Conversation No. 6-45

Date: June 30, 1971
Time: 9:59 am - 10:00 am
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Senator Barry M. Goldwater.

[See Conversation No. 532-8A]

     Goldwater's recent television appearance on American Broadcasting Company [ABC]
         -President's conversation with John A. Scali
         -William B. Macomber, Jr.

     House of Representatives' recent vote
         -F. Edward Hébert
         -John C. Stennis

     House-Senate conference

Also recorded on June 30, 1971

  • 006-043 9:50 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:50 am and 9:59 am.
  • 006-044 9:50 AM · 7 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:50 am and 9:59 am.
  • 532-007 9:54 AM · 1 min — unknown person(s) and Manolo Sanchez met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:54 am and 9:59 am.
  • 532-008 9:59 AM · 4 min — President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Barry M. Goldwater, and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 9:59 am and 10:02 am.
  • 006-046 10:01 AM · 16 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 10:01 am.
  • 006-047 10:02 AM · 8 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at 10:02 am.
  • 532-009 10:02 AM · 11 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator met in the Oval Office of the White House at 10:02 am.
  • 532-010 10:02 AM · 12 sec — President Richard M. Nixon and unknown person(s) met in the Oval Office of the White House at an unknown time between 10:02 am and 10:18 am.

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Cite this conversation

Conversation 006-045, June 30, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/006-045 (accessed October 5, 2026).