{"conversationCode":"006-045","tapeNumber":6,"conversationNumber":45,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-006-045","startDateTime":"1971-06-30T13:59:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-30T14:00:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Jun-1971","startTime":"9:59 AM","endDate":"30-Jun-1971","endTime":"10:00 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Goldwater, Barry M.;","description":"On June 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Barry M. Goldwater talked on the telephone from 9:59 am to 10:00 am. 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Stennis\n\n     House-Senate conference","filename":["006-045.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:52:55","tapeEnd":"00:54:09","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Goldwater, Barry M."],"prevCode":"006-044","nextCode":"006-046","transcript":[{"start":0.13,"end":12,"text":"John Scali was telling me, Barry, I had known you didn't, but he told me what a"},{"start":12.38,"end":22.46,"text":"Really, on 30 minutes notice, how you went on that ABC program when McComber had to, on Monday, McComber had to do it, but I just wanted to thank you."},{"start":22.5,"end":25.99,"text":"By golly, it's good to have one guy that'll go to bat and cloud them."},{"start":26.19,"end":27.17,"text":"That's what we're down here for."},{"start":27.23,"end":27.93,"text":"That's right."},{"start":27.97,"end":31.02,"text":"Well, I'll tell you, stir up a few of your other guys to get the way."},{"start":31.24,"end":32.18,"text":"Although, I'll tell you..."},{"start":32.16,"end":35.56,"text":"Isn't that house doing well, though, the way they voted the other way in that damn amendment?"},{"start":35.59,"end":41.55,"text":"Oh, my God, if it weren't for the House... And let me tell you, one of the great men over there, Barry, I hope you tell him when you see him, is Eddie Hebert."},{"start":41.57,"end":42.53,"text":"God, he's like a rock."},{"start":42.77,"end":43.39,"text":"Yep, he is."},{"start":43.41,"end":44.95,"text":"He's like a rock, I'm telling you."},{"start":45.09,"end":48.02,"text":"Thank God we have him, because the Senate is really going berserk."},{"start":48.06,"end":50.32,"text":"Yeah, when you were..."},{"start":52.08,"end":58.51,"text":"Yesterday, the votes were all right, but when you're talking to Eddie sometime, you just might say that, boy, the... Because I really feel this."},{"start":58.53,"end":59.89,"text":"Without him, we couldn't run this."},{"start":59.87,"end":64.02,"text":"Eddie Hebert in the House, and, of course, John Stennis stands up in the Senate."},{"start":64.04,"end":69.43,"text":"But Hebert just has told me, he says, by God, he's going to be like a rock in that conference until they knock out that date."},{"start":69.49,"end":70.89,"text":"Well, they're going to do it, I think."},{"start":70.92,"end":71.3,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":72.06,"end":72.52,"text":"Okay."},{"start":72.86,"end":73.14,"text":"All right."},{"start":73.16,"end":73.54,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":73.7,"end":74.5,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon calls Senator Barry Goldwater to express appreciation for Goldwater's recent television appearance supporting the administration's position. The two discuss the political landscape in Congress, specifically praising Representative F. Edward Hébert for his steadfast leadership in the House of Representatives. Nixon emphasizes the importance of Hébert and Senator John Stennis in resisting legislative pressure during upcoming House-Senate conference negotiations.","topics":["Barry Goldwater","F. Edward Hébert","John Stennis","Legislative relations","Congressional conferences","ABC television"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:09:49.988Z"},"topicSlugs":["barry-goldwater","f-edward-h-bert","john-stennis","legislative-relations","congressional-conferences","abc-television"],"audioDurationSec":75,"audioFiles":[{"file":"006-045.mp3","bytes":1791549,"durationSec":74.54,"bitrate":192275,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.078Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/006-045.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/006-045","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/6/conversation-006-045","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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