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Conversation 006-059

TapeTape 6StartWednesday, June 30, 1971 at 3:08 PMEndWednesday, June 30, 1971 at 3:09 PMTape start time01:07:29Tape end time01:09:09ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Colson, Charles W.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
AudioNARA Description

On June 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 3:08 pm to 3:09 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 006-059 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 6-59

Date: June 30, 1971
Time: 3:08 pm - 3:09 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

     Pentagon Papers
           -Supreme Court decision
           -John M. Harlan
           -Byron R. White
           -Daniel Ellsberg
           -President's conversation with John N. Mitchell
     Potter Stewart
           -Health

     President's speech to Federal Bureau of Investigation [FBI] academy
           -Content

                                                                           Conversation
                                                                           Conv. No. 6-59
                                                                                        No.
                                                                                          (cont.)
                                                                                            6-60

Date: June 30, 1971
Time: 5:14 pm - 5:15 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods; this recording begins at an unknown time while
the conversation is in progress.

[See Conversation No. 533-001]

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 05/08/2023.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[006-060-w001]
[Duration: 11s]

     Rose Mary Woods’ schedule
          -Meeting with Louis C. Wyman and unknown person
          -Roman Nolan

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     The President's call to Cynthia Frink
          -New Hampshire
          -Louis C. Wyman
Transcript (AI-Generated)

This transcript was generated automatically by AI and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite this transcript as authoritative. Consult the Finding Aid above for verified information.

Hello.
Yes, sir, Mr. President.
Well, it came out just like I predicted, didn't it?
Yes, sir.
Except the interesting thing that we held Harlan lost quiet.
I thought it would be the other way around.
I thought we might get five to four out of it.
I was kind of hoping.
Of course, the principle remains intact, I gather.
I haven't seen the decisions, but I understand from what I've been told that the principle at least of...
classification of classification and of being able to prevent unauthorized disclosures if the evidence supports it yeah so that really what what it says is that the evidence in this instance doesn't support it well uh i just saw it mitchell though and i said now don't don't let
Don't give up on Ellsberg.
And he said, well, I guess they're going to try to make him a martyr.
And I said, God damn it, don't worry about his being a martyr.
I don't think they can get away with that one.
I don't either.
Do you?
No, sir.
I've taken all this into account.
I never expected the court to uphold us on this, their First Amendment.
One thing, of course, about Stuart, that's really disgraceful.
I think the point on that...
A few people get around the very obvious fact that he's so overwhelmed by the Washington-Georgetown social set.
He's just a weak bastard.
Well, he is.
And, of course, he's got a drinking problem.
There's a lot of... Oh, is that right?
Oh, yeah.
There's a...
and can't find him sober most evenings.
Well, anyway, on this, though, I think we're fine.
I made a very tough speech at the FBI Academy about your permissiveness.
Did you hear about that?
I did, and I think it's excellent, Mr. Fauci.
Follow up on it.
I certainly will, sir.
Bye.
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