{"conversationCode":"006-068","tapeNumber":6,"conversationNumber":68,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-006-068","startDateTime":"1971-06-30T23:44:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-06-30T23:46:00.000Z","startDate":"30-Jun-1971","startTime":"7:44 PM","endDate":"30-Jun-1971","endTime":"7:46 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Shultz, George P.;","description":"On June 30, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and George P. Shultz talked on the telephone from 7:44 pm to 7:46 pm. 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(President)","Shultz, George P."],"prevCode":"006-067","nextCode":"006-069","transcript":[{"start":2.54,"end":6.65,"text":"Hello."},{"start":14.9,"end":21.95,"text":"Hi, George."},{"start":25.31,"end":27.57,"text":"I know."},{"start":28.31,"end":34.18,"text":"and I'm sure that's partly responsible for all sorts of qualifications, but nevertheless, there it is."},{"start":34.2,"end":37.69,"text":"It couldn't be totally responsible, could it, George?"},{"start":37.71,"end":38.97,"text":"No, it isn't totally responsible."},{"start":39.31,"end":41.33,"text":"Probably 3% of it, huh?"},{"start":41.35,"end":42.75,"text":"Well... Oh, you never know."},{"start":42.85,"end":46.4,"text":"In fact, it's just a poll anyway, isn't it?"},{"start":46.42,"end":49.18,"text":"No, it's a pretty good, I think it's a good sample."},{"start":50.47,"end":53.09,"text":"These things go, it's the best sample that there is of"},{"start":55.89,"end":60.77,"text":"6.2 was in May, and 5.6 in June."},{"start":60.94,"end":61.3,"text":"Oh, boy."},{"start":61.58,"end":63.5,"text":"Then, of course, it'll go up from there."},{"start":63.52,"end":65.44,"text":"It probably will."},{"start":65.5,"end":75.98,"text":"There was a greater seasonal drop in the labor force, and the employment did not go up seasonally adjusted."},{"start":76.1,"end":79.71,"text":"It went down, or it went up tremendously unadjusted."},{"start":79.73,"end":81.17,"text":"What is the situation?"},{"start":91.98,"end":103.94,"text":"Well, that's good news."},{"start":104.4,"end":105.22,"text":"That'll come out Friday?"},{"start":106.21,"end":108.55,"text":"That's great."},{"start":108.57,"end":112.5,"text":"Well, the thing to do now is to have that sort of underplayed."},{"start":113.46,"end":113.86,"text":"Don't you think?"},{"start":114.46,"end":117.54,"text":"Just let the figure speak for itself, or do you think you ought to brag about it?"},{"start":117.56,"end":119.31,"text":"No, I think that it'll be widely played."},{"start":124.75,"end":128.11,"text":"Right."},{"start":128.13,"end":129.33,"text":"Well, that's great."},{"start":129.37,"end":130.04,"text":"Okay, George."},{"start":130.84,"end":131,"text":"Okay."},{"start":131.02,"end":131.42,"text":"Okay, thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and George Shultz discuss the positive drop in the unemployment rate from 6.2 percent in May to 5.6 percent in June. 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