{"conversationCode":"006-127","tapeNumber":6,"conversationNumber":127,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-006-127","startDateTime":"1971-07-03T20:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-07-03T20:06:00.000Z","startDate":"3-Jul-1971","startTime":"4:05 PM","endDate":"3-Jul-1971","endTime":"4:06 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Carruthers, William H.;","description":"On July 3, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and William H. Carruthers talked on the telephone from 4:05 pm to 4:06 pm. 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(President)","Carruthers, William H."],"prevCode":"006-126","nextCode":"006-128","transcript":[{"start":1.04,"end":1.52,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":3.05,"end":3.37,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":3.85,"end":4.09,"text":"Bill?"},{"start":4.27,"end":4.59,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":4.69,"end":5.31,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":5.33,"end":6.21,"text":"I had a couple thoughts."},{"start":6.97,"end":28.62,"text":"Because of the way that I am ending my speech on the theme of America is a beautiful country, in the event that our time, and it all depends on how the time of the other two run, and if they run a little ahead and I finish a little ahead, rather than God bless America, I think America the Beautiful would be the better song."},{"start":29.44,"end":29.89,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":30.05,"end":31.27,"text":"It would fit the theme, you see."},{"start":31.85,"end":33.99,"text":"It'll fit in directly with the way I have it concluded."},{"start":34.35,"end":34.69,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":34.89,"end":35.34,"text":"My remarks."},{"start":35.35,"end":35.94,"text":"Could you do that?"},{"start":36.58,"end":36.86,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":36.88,"end":37.84,"text":"I'll take care of it right away."},{"start":38.86,"end":38.96,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":38.98,"end":39.66,"text":"They can handle that."},{"start":39.72,"end":40.95,"text":"Now, one other thing."},{"start":40.97,"end":44.75,"text":"I was going to say that"},{"start":45.17,"end":50.95,"text":"I was intending to wear my little American flag and my lapel."},{"start":51.03,"end":51.77,"text":"That's no problem."},{"start":51.85,"end":53.15,"text":"No, sir, not at all."},{"start":53.17,"end":53.49,"text":"Fine."},{"start":53.87,"end":54.33,"text":"Not at all."},{"start":54.84,"end":56.4,"text":"I think it'll be appropriate."},{"start":56.46,"end":57.04,"text":"Absolutely."},{"start":57.06,"end":58.18,"text":"A lot of people will notice it."},{"start":58.48,"end":58.84,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":58.91,"end":62.61,"text":"And it won't hurt and it doesn't glitter off of it or something."},{"start":62.67,"end":62.87,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":62.89,"end":63.31,"text":"No problem."},{"start":63.3,"end":64.14,"text":"Great."},{"start":64.26,"end":69.58,"text":"Sir, all I have to do is confirm with the choir director that they have America the Beautiful a cappella."},{"start":69.62,"end":72.1,"text":"I'm certain that they do, but I will confirm it back with you."},{"start":72.12,"end":73.64,"text":"Well, if they have it, no, you don't need to."},{"start":73.69,"end":75.43,"text":"If they don't, then sing God Bless America."},{"start":75.45,"end":76.13,"text":"It's all right, too."},{"start":76.41,"end":79.89,"text":"We will follow, then, the national anthem with America the Beautiful, if possible."},{"start":80.07,"end":83.39,"text":"If possible, and if not, we can do the other one."},{"start":83.44,"end":84.22,"text":"That's perfectly all right."},{"start":84.24,"end":85.5,"text":"You don't need to call me back on it."},{"start":85.66,"end":86.1,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":86.4,"end":87.58,"text":"Okay, everything else is okay?"},{"start":87.6,"end":88.54,"text":"Yes, sir, just fine."},{"start":88.56,"end":89.88,"text":"Fine, we'll see you there at 10 o'clock."},{"start":90,"end":90.82,"text":"Thank you, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with William H. Carruthers regarding the production details for an upcoming speech. The President requested that “America the Beautiful” be selected as the closing song to better align with the themes of his remarks, pending the availability of an a cappella version. Additionally, Nixon confirmed his intent to wear an American flag lapel pin, which Carruthers agreed would be an appropriate and well-received gesture.","topics":["Public relations","Speechwriting","Presidential image","Patriotism","Event planning"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:17:12.877Z"},"topicSlugs":["public-relations","speechwriting","presidential-image","patriotism","event-planning"],"audioDurationSec":95,"audioFiles":[{"file":"006-127.mp3","bytes":2274216,"durationSec":94.66,"bitrate":192209,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.079Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/006-127.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/006-127","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/6/conversation-006-127","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}