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Conversation 006-193

TapeTape 6StartThursday, July 22, 1971 at 7:55 PMEndThursday, July 22, 1971 at 8:07 PMTape start time04:45:07Tape end time04:56:50ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Colson, Charles W.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
AudioNARA Description

On July 22, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 7:55 pm and 8:07 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 006-193 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 6-193

Date: July 22, 1971
Time: Unknown between 7:55 pm and 8:07 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Charles W. Colson.

     Vietnam casualties
          -Television coverage

     George P. Shultz's comments on news coverage
          -Unemployment rate

     National economy
          -Economic indicators
          -News stories
          -John B. Connally's forthcoming "Face the Nation" appearance

     Louis Harris poll results
          -Timing
                -Field poll

     National economy
          -Popular perceptions
          -Prospects

     Harris poll

           -Causes of change
           -Results
           -Cumulative impact of positive events

     Colson's conversation with Thomas W. ("Teddy") Gleason
          -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson, Hubert H. Humphrey
          -Reaction of hardhat audience to speech
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Hello.
Well, anything new in your front today?
Good, good.
Yeah.
It's going to be less even next week, I think.
Maybe less than ten.
I didn't check tomorrow, sure.
Right, right.
Well, you're checking tomorrow.
News, I mean, race, health.
I didn't do the job.
Oh, really?
Oh, I know.
You can't go over the door.
But on the other hand, God damn it, somebody was saying that when George Shultz was saying that we had the low unemployment thing, that they just can't give this administration credit for any good news.
Oh, they hate you, that's for sure.
No, I didn't get that.
You mean 6%?
I mean, that's the same as last month.
Five-tenths of a percent after.
Right.
Well, as a matter of fact, we'll get a better bounce from that in the summer, though.
Food prices generally will go down then.
No.
You look at it for the year-to-date, how would you know?
I never worry about them.
The difficulty is they do get in a little one-day flood, but that's where it happens.
All right.
Right.
Right.
How about Harris and Spohr?
Has he given you the results yet?
No.
when would he do that?
I think the main thing of this is that apart from the general public reaction, which we can't talk about, is that the moving from, you know, well, only fair to
Hey, you were talking earlier today.
The main problem is the economy, Chuck.
The difficulty there is basically psychological.
Everybody's talking this and that, and the economy's pretty good, but we just can't seem to get people off the dime to say it, isn't it?
Well, the main thing is that the economy is just going to move for reasons that have nothing to do with all these retailers that people are going to buy.
It's going to go up.
It's got to go up.
But your friend Harris, I was telling you, everything we hear shows up.
You know, you'll trigger that a bit up, too.
Right.
And it's also one of those things that fills.
It may not show in the first two or three days afterwards, but it may show more as you go on, you see.
Right.
Why don't you give Harris a call tomorrow and tell him what's going on with the Chipotle show.
Right.
Tell him it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What can we do with
Nothing to do with the smoke.
Must be out in the morning.
He's playing a very low-key game.
He's playing a very low-key game.
He's playing a very low-key game.
The prosthetic goes out with the real all-the-way thing.
That's popular.
Right.
Yeah.
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Let me say this.
If Harris can reflect that, even in a modest way in his poll, that would be very important.
Good.
Okay.
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