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It has been rereviewed and\nreleased 08/08/2019.]\n[Unintelligible]\n[007-004-w002]\n[Duration: 17s]\n\n     Economy\n         -Sales figures\n               -Paul W. McCracken\n                     -Location\n\n**********************************************************************","filename":["007-004.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:05:01","tapeEnd":"00:16:41","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"007-003","nextCode":"007-005","transcript":[{"start":11.93,"end":34.96,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":34.98,"end":35.08,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":35.1,"end":35.2,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":35.22,"end":35.32,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":40.7,"end":63.15,"text":"Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah."},{"start":78.91,"end":85.27,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":110.21,"end":136.62,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":136.64,"end":136.74,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":136.76,"end":136.86,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":137.51,"end":163.38,"text":"China thing worry them?"},{"start":163.4,"end":163.46,"text":"No?"},{"start":163.48,"end":163.8,"text":"Not in New York?"},{"start":163.82,"end":165.02,"text":"Or they're probably smart enough to see what it's all about."},{"start":173.27,"end":199.95,"text":"That's good That's right"},{"start":204.76,"end":225.82,"text":"Right?"},{"start":225.84,"end":229.42,"text":"Did you get my suggestion about my playing golf with Meany?"},{"start":229.44,"end":230.02,"text":"Well, why don't you find out?"},{"start":230.04,"end":230.34,"text":"Offer a choice."},{"start":230.36,"end":231.62,"text":"And if he doesn't want to do it, then I'll play the day before."},{"start":231.64,"end":232.28,"text":"Just playing around with play."},{"start":237.26,"end":260.92,"text":"That'll be our salute to labor."},{"start":260.94,"end":261.2,"text":"That's right."},{"start":261.22,"end":261.6,"text":"That's a good idea."},{"start":261.62,"end":262.86,"text":"Forget that dignity of the work thing for a radio talk, right?"},{"start":272.31,"end":285.39,"text":"All right."},{"start":285.41,"end":286.81,"text":"At least it shows that we adopt our hat to them."},{"start":286.83,"end":287.61,"text":"At least they also... Is that right?"},{"start":287.63,"end":288.31,"text":"They ought to make a note of that."},{"start":288.33,"end":290.25,"text":"Also, one of them ought to do an introduction or something."},{"start":290.27,"end":291.62,"text":"Praise the president for the fact that he..."},{"start":295.65,"end":309.42,"text":"Fire."},{"start":498.81,"end":519.9,"text":"You know, an interesting thing, I'm certainly glad we got our pull out on Sunday and I saw that Steve Gallop was just a week early."},{"start":519.92,"end":520.5,"text":"I don't know if you saw that."},{"start":520.52,"end":520.98,"text":"Yeah, I saw that, yeah."},{"start":521,"end":521.92,"text":"Well, that apparently happened a little later."},{"start":521.94,"end":522.78,"text":"That's been virtually no longer, you know."},{"start":522.8,"end":523.4,"text":"Gallop was just a little late."},{"start":523.42,"end":524.15,"text":"Well, that's the other way I see it."},{"start":524.17,"end":524.37,"text":"Well done."},{"start":524.39,"end":524.99,"text":"You played very well out here."},{"start":525.01,"end":525.49,"text":"I hope it's not too bad."},{"start":530.26,"end":540.42,"text":"Now these fellows then will, Connelly, they should see all the Republicans before they go home."},{"start":557.38,"end":574.95,"text":"That didn't, I don't know why that didn't get around."},{"start":574.97,"end":575.75,"text":"Those figures are correct, aren't they?"},{"start":575.77,"end":575.99,"text":"Oh, it did."},{"start":576.01,"end":576.73,"text":"Well, the journal gave a good story."},{"start":576.75,"end":579,"text":"They attributed it primarily to the sales, to the sales, to the promotional content, and, of course, acceptance."},{"start":586.79,"end":615.84,"text":"That may have kicked it up a bit."},{"start":615.86,"end":615.94,"text":"Yep."},{"start":615.96,"end":616.26,"text":"Might have not."},{"start":620.25,"end":643.75,"text":"It won't be at that level, but I think the month will be good."},{"start":643.77,"end":644.03,"text":"Retail sales."},{"start":647.07,"end":667.66,"text":"I'm rather surprised the Kraken didn't use that."},{"start":693.44,"end":694.07,"text":"Okay."},{"start":695.57,"end":695.89,"text":"Well, it's over."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discussed political strategy, focusing on public relations initiatives and legislative briefings. Key topics included coordinating Congressional briefings for George Shultz and John Connally, monitoring domestic reaction to foreign policy developments regarding China, and planning a symbolic Labor Day gesture involving a golf outing with union leader George Meany. Additionally, they reviewed positive economic indicators, specifically retail and automobile sales figures, to assess the administration's messaging effectiveness.","topics":["Economic Policy","Labor Relations","Congressional Relations","Foreign Policy","Public Relations","PRC"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:24:28.097Z"},"topicSlugs":["economic-policy","labor-relations","congressional-relations","foreign-policy","public-relations","prc"],"audioDurationSec":701,"audioFiles":[{"file":"007-004.mp3","bytes":16817631,"durationSec":700.66,"bitrate":192019,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.079Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/007-004.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/007-004","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/7/conversation-007-004","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}