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Conversation 007-079

TapeTape 7StartMonday, August 9, 1971 at 5:47 PMEndMonday, August 9, 1971 at 5:48 PMTape start time02:48:43Tape end time02:49:41ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Shultz, George P.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
AI Summary

President Nixon consulted with George Shultz regarding the political strategy for two pending bills, relaying concerns raised by John Connally about the timing of potential vetoes. Connally advised against immediate action, arguing that the administration had not yet established the necessary political predicate to justify a veto to Congress. Consequently, the President decided to delay his final decision pending further analysis of the administration's leverage and the likelihood of successfully challenging Congress.

Veto strategyJohn ConnallyFederal budgetCongressional relationsEconomic policy
AudioNARA Description

On August 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and George P. Shultz talked on the telephone from 5:47 pm to 5:48 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 007-079 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 7-79

Date: August 9, 1971
Time: 5:47 pm - 5:48 pm
Location: White House Telephone
The President talked with George P. Shultz.

[See Conversation No. 558-10A]

     Bills
             -The President's talk with John B. Connally
                  -Budget
                  -Veto
                  -Congress
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Hello.
Mr. Schultz.
Yeah.
George.
Yes, sir.
On those two bills, I talked to Connolly about them, and I think he makes a very good point in one respect.
I mean, it sort of leans the other way on the budget thing, but the reason that he has for not vetoing is that we will not have laid the proper predicate for it.
His view is that once we have vetoed
made the other moves that we're planning but then you just veto them in a minute you know and then throw the ball right back over to the congress but here to do it now he thinks there's some doubts about it now that's his argument for whatever it's worth and uh i i i hate to roll over on those bills i must say but i i still want to see tomorrow what what the congressional chances are if we do veto okay okay
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