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Nixon phone call with Woods on White House security

Wednesday, August 11, 1971 · 8:09 PM–8:20 PM ET · White House Telephone · 12 min

ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President); Woods, Rose MaryConversation007-095 on Tape 7 (tape position 03:23:42–03:35:56)StartWednesday, August 11, 1971 at 8:09 PMEndWednesday, August 11, 1971 at 8:20 PMRecording deviceWhite House TelephoneSourceNixon Library record for 007-095 ↗

President Nixon consulted with his secretary, Rose Mary Woods, regarding an individual claiming to possess the President's personal notes. Nixon expressed relief after Woods confirmed the man—a government employee—had no such documentation and had fabricated his claims. The President subsequently detailed his meticulous security procedures for handling sensitive scheduling materials while traveling to prevent potential leaks or security breaches.

  • White House security
  • Presidential travel procedures
  • Internal Revenue Service
  • Arthur Godfrey
  • Document security

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Hello?
Rose?
Yes, sir?
Did they find out where my notes were?
Oh, yes, they found out he didn't have anything.
He didn't?
No, and he's sort of a kook, but you know what?
He's a grade 14 with the Internal Revenue Service.
And apparently, Arthur Godfrey called me and said, apparently he's sort of a, now he takes on anyone, you know, any name or something.
I guess his bosses or something.
Sounds to me like they ought to take him.
Yeah.
But I, you know, I knew, Rose, that there was nothing to it.
Because, you know, the reason I knew is that I have a very, I have a little procedure I follow on the plane.
I change coats.
put it in the briefcase, put it in the schedule, and go with that alone, because I know this could happen, you know.
And so I know he didn't have any, but I just thought maybe I made a mistake.
I thought maybe he had gotten a, you know, like a schedule card and was just trying to make it in, but he didn't have anything.
He didn't have anything to show them.
And he hasn't tried to make anything up.
I mean, he just made up the story.

On August 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Rose Mary Woods talked on the telephone from 8:09 pm to 8:20 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 007-095 of the White House Tapes.

Conversation No. 7-95

Date: August 11, 1971
Time: 8:09 pm - 8:20 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Rose Mary Woods.

     The President's notes
          -Unknown man
               -Internal Revenue Service [IRS]
               -Arthur Godfrey
                      -Call to Woods
               -The President's procedure on plane
               -Schedule card
               -Story

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[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 08/09/2019.
Segment cleared for release.]
[Personal Returnable]
[007-095-w001]
[Duration: 10m 44s]

      The President's schedule
             -California trip
                     -Julie Nixon Eisenhower
                              -New York
                                    -Airport
                              -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
                              -Campaigning
                                    -Martha Dawes [sp]
                                    -Women
                                            -Attractiveness and smarts
                                            -Constance M. (Cornell) (“Connie”) Stuart
                                            -Debbie [surname unknown]
                                                    -Virginia
                                                    -Lucy A. Winchester
                              -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
                                    -Advance

                                       -Gwen King
                                               -Abilities
                                       -Young men
                                -Rose Mary Woods's talk with
                                       -Advance men and women
                         -Advance men
                                -The President’s opinion
                                -Canton, Ohio
                                -Ottumwa
                                -New Hampshire
                         -Rose Mary Woods's talk with Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
                                -Constance M. (Cornell) (“Connie”) Stuart's staff
                                       -Rose Mary Woods’s opinion
                                       -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon
                         -Advance work
                                -Men
                                -Women
                                       -The President’s opinion
                                               -Perception
                                       -Women’s lib
                                -Campaigning

Politics
           -John V. Lindsay’s party affiliation
                  -Barry M. Goldwater, Sr.'s comment
                  -Rose Mary Woods's visit to Walter R. Tkach
                  -Roger H. Mudd
                  -Mike Wallace’s comment
                         -W. Kenneth Riland
                  -Ronald W. Reagan’s pitch
                         -Democrats switch to Republican Party
                  -Henry M. (“Scoop”) Jackson’s comment
                  -Edward M. (“Ted”) Kennedy
                  -Appeal to stay in Republican Party
                         -John Hay Whitney
                         -David Rockefeller
                         -Lee W. Huebner
                         -Ripon Society letter
                                 -Fourteen signatories
                         -Herbert Brownell
                  -Barry M. Goldwater, Sr.’s comments
                         -State of New York

                     -Jayne Brumley
                            -Comments to Newsweek
                            -Telephone call to Rose Mary Woods
                     -Ronald L. Ziegler
                     -W. Kenneth Riland
                            -Jacob K. Javits
                                    -Party affiliation
                                    -People’s Republic of China [PRC] [?]

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Conversation 007-095, August 12, 1971. White House Tapes, Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, National Archives. Audio and AI transcript via Easy Nixon, https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/007-095 (accessed October 9, 2026).