{"conversationCode":"007-097","tapeNumber":7,"conversationNumber":97,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-007-097","startDateTime":"1971-08-12T00:24:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-08-12T00:28:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Aug-1971","startTime":"8:24 PM","endDate":"11-Aug-1971","endTime":"8:28 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Reagan, Ronald W.;","description":"On August 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald W. Reagan talked on the telephone from 8:24 pm to 8:28 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 007-097 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":1,"chronRelease":"First Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"5-Oct-1999","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 7-97\n\nDate: August 11, 1971\nTime: 8:24 pm - 8:28 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with Ronald W. Reagan.\n\n     Greetings\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 08/09/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[007-097-w001]\n\n[Duration: 2m 23s]\n\n      John Lindsay’s party affiliation\n             -Ronald W. Reagan's statement\n                     -Unsurprising\n                     -Effect on the two-party system\n                     -Party switch by Democrats\n             -New York\n             -Nelson A. Rockefeller\n                     -Anti-Lindsay\n                     -Currently in Portugal\n             -Presidential candidacy\n                     -New York City budget\n                             -The President’s opinion\n                             -Larger than California\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n     The President's schedule\n          -California trip\n          -Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW]\n          -Dallas\n          -Illinois State Fair\n          -Reagan’s schedule\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 08/09/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[007-097-w002]\n[Duration: 30s]\n\n      Schedule\n            -Ronald W. Reagan\n                   -Beach\n            -Dinner\n                   -Helicopter\n                   -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n                   -Nancy Reagan\n\n       John V. Lindsay\n              -Ronald W. Reagan statement\n                     -People’s Republic of China [PRC]\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n     Ronald W. Reagan’s schedule\n         -Henry A. Kissinger briefing\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n[Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 08/09/2019.\nSegment cleared for release.]\n[Personal Returnable]\n[007-097-w004]\n[Duration: 32s]\n\n       The President's schedule\n              -California trip\n                      -Nancy Reagan\n                      -Arrival August 19-20, 1971\n                      -August 25, 1971\n                      -Nancy Reagan\n\n**********************************************************************","filename":["007-097.mp3"],"tapeStart":"03:36:08","tapeEnd":"03:40:35","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Reagan, Ronald W."],"prevCode":"007-096","nextCode":"007-098","transcript":[{"start":0.18,"end":1.67,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":1.69,"end":4.25,"text":"Hello?"},{"start":5.61,"end":5.86,"text":"Ron?"},{"start":6,"end":7.22,"text":"Yes, how are you?"},{"start":150,"end":169.47,"text":"I'm going to be in California toward the end of next week."},{"start":169.49,"end":172.07,"text":"I'm going out to, you know, I'm going to stop by the DFW in Dallas, you know, the Illinois State Fair."},{"start":172.09,"end":173.29,"text":"Well, I remember that Reagan was from Illinois and all that."},{"start":173.31,"end":175.19,"text":"But in any event, when we're out there, I hope we get a chance to get together."},{"start":175.21,"end":177.78,"text":"Will you be in California the last two weeks of August or not?"},{"start":207.54,"end":223.06,"text":"Yes, Sammy."},{"start":223.08,"end":228.41,"text":"There's more going on than meets the eye, let me tell you, on other fronts."},{"start":228.43,"end":229.55,"text":"I won't tell you, but we shouldn't do it over the phone."},{"start":229.57,"end":232.57,"text":"But I want you, when you come down to dinner, I want Henry to tell you, let you in on some of the things that are going on that we can't say publicly."},{"start":232.59,"end":233.49,"text":"They're very important and very hopeful, Ron."},{"start":233.51,"end":233.78,"text":"Very hopeful."},{"start":233.79,"end":234.29,"text":"I just, I won't leave it."},{"start":234.31,"end":235.76,"text":"I won't say any more on that because you obviously know what's going on."},{"start":235.78,"end":236.24,"text":"Do you see what I mean?"},{"start":236.26,"end":236.36,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":236.38,"end":236.5,"text":"Right."},{"start":236.52,"end":236.64,"text":"Right."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Richard Nixon and California Governor Ronald Reagan spoke to coordinate their respective schedules for upcoming travel and to arrange a meeting during the President's planned trip to California. The two discussed the political implications of New York City Mayor John Lindsay's recent party affiliation change and touched upon upcoming diplomatic developments. Nixon emphasized the importance of these confidential foreign policy matters and instructed Reagan to receive a formal briefing from Henry Kissinger regarding these hopeful, non-public affairs.","topics":["John V. Lindsay","Presidential scheduling","Foreign policy","Henry A. 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