Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 007-142 Date: Sunday, August 15, 1971 at 11:07 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Romney, George W. Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/007-142 This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [0:02] I'm having trouble reaching Mr. President and I have a moment. [0:07] Hello. [0:15] Hello George. [0:24] Mr. President. [0:25] How are you? [0:26] Well I feel better. [0:27] Okay. [0:29] I think that's a very bold program. [0:37] Of course, the aspects of it are incomplete, but you set up the work on those aspects. [0:48] Well, we're going to have a cabinet meeting tomorrow. [0:52] We shook them up a little. [0:52] Well, I think it's an immediate action. [0:53] When I say incomplete, I'm talking about the [0:55] Well, I think it's a very basically sound approach. [1:14] Incidentally, rents will be controlled under this, too, you know. [1:21] I see. [1:21] Well, that's going to be tough. [1:22] That's going to be tough. [1:22] But dividends, rents, dividends is voluntary. [1:24] Rents is compulsory, yeah. [1:25] Well, I congratulate you because it's a bold program and a very comprehensive one. [1:30] Well, in the morning, raise any questions that you like because you want to get at them and start fighting for it. [1:43] Of course, it also sets up the procedure to deal with the international situation. [1:46] Oh, boy, we've got them where we need to find the driver's seat again. [1:48] Right. [1:48] Well, I feel better because I think on this basis we may be able to hold those in the state. [1:51] That would be very helpful. [1:52] Thank God. [1:53] I hope so. [1:53] Interest rates, incidentally, were highly problematic, we'll say. [1:58] As you know, the problem there, if we froze them, then people would not make fun of other reasons not to make loans. [2:05] But the delicate problem is that we've got a huge bankers. [2:09] And ours is more than that, too. [2:10] Well, I feel better, and I certainly would congratulate you on that. [2:25] My opinion is the country's going to respond very safely. [2:28] Yeah, that's the main thing. [2:29] We're going to depend on the people. [2:30] If they want to support us, they'll make it work. [2:31] If they aren't for us, then it won't work. [2:33] And you laid out the responsibility of the people themselves and the competitive appearance and all of that, and I thought that was right on the button. [2:37] And as far as the job pictures, I mean, the recommendations you've made there on the simulation, [2:40] If they don't, nothing else will. [2:42] That's right. [2:43] Okay, George. [2:44] Thank you. [2:45] Thanks a lot. [2:46] Bye.