Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 008-009 Date: Monday, August 16, 1971 at 8:41 PM Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. ("Bob") Recording device: White House Telephone Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/008-009 National Archives Catalog: https://catalog.archives.gov/id/645078689 (NAID 645078689) This transcript was generated automatically by AI (WhisperX) and has not been reviewed for accuracy. Do not cite it as authoritative. [2:08] What I was calling you about was trying to get these drafts over here. [2:32] Okay. [2:32] I understand you were trying to reach Conley. [2:33] No, no, no. [2:33] He called me. [2:33] He had called you earlier. [2:34] He had... [2:35] He had some things he wanted to, some good news he wanted to give you. [2:50] Right. [2:50] He gave it to me to pass on to you, but I know he'd like to tell you if you want to call him. [2:54] Well, fine. [2:54] Or I'll cover it with you if you don't need to either way. [2:55] He said not to have you call him. [2:56] Well, if he's at dinner, I don't think I'd call him. [2:57] Okay. [2:57] What he wanted to tell you was that he had talked to Joe Gilgar, a former convict. [2:59] Right. [3:17] And he's been in lunch with the headliners, but he's down there with a bunch of top people, and he talks to many people from all walks of life during the day. [3:20] So he's got all praise for what he did. [3:21] Not one word of good, but all good about that. [3:22] Jake Pickle, I believe his name is. [3:23] Good. [3:23] But that was funny. [3:23] And he went to two parts of the U.S. Treasury Security and had one of the strongest days in his life. [3:27] and we'll hold the 71 prices on the new model [3:56] So it means that knockout, instead of the 100, he would have asked for the knockout and knocked out 100. [4:20] Isn't that doing? [4:20] He would have to make those sorts of cards. [4:21] Correct. [4:21] Well, he's doing that in light of the president's courage about it. [4:22] So he would, you know, do different things with that. [4:23] Correct. [4:24] Doing all the good about that. [4:24] The whole day. [4:25] Yeah. [4:26] Really up, baby. [4:47] Good. [4:47] Oh, yeah. [4:47] He kept talking about how proud he was to be a great son. [4:49] I told him the same last night that he was the guy that had done the work, got it rolling. [4:50] He gave me a phone call on Thursday. [4:51] He said you were coming up and something had to be done. [4:52] I said, yeah, but he said any jackass would come up with the idea. [4:54] The guy with the balls to do it. [4:55] Well, he must be okay. [5:00] Oh, yeah. [5:19] I had it. [5:20] I had it. [5:20] Yeah. [6:28] Good. [6:44] Yeah, fine. [6:49] I just did that. [6:52] I think I will go up early, however. [6:53] Why so? [6:53] Well, I just don't want to... [6:54] If I stick around here, I'm going to get clenched. [6:55] I think put it up, Bob. [6:55] The jackass will come in and want to do the line papers, and I'll let you set up, for instance. [6:58] I need to get up and get to who's speaking. [7:23] I think there's something to be said to get up there and get in the room. [7:24] You know what I mean? [7:26] Get it open. [7:26] I just don't want to be here. [7:26] When I'm out of town, everybody will not love me. [7:27] That's right. [7:29] That's fine. [7:46] Hopefully, we can go a little deeper. [7:47] That'll take about 12. [7:48] Then after that. [7:49] You can call me if you want. [8:24] Good.