{"conversationCode":"008-022","tapeNumber":8,"conversationNumber":22,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-008-022","startDateTime":"1971-08-17T01:40:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-08-17T01:42:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Aug-1971","startTime":"9:40 PM","endDate":"16-Aug-1971","endTime":"9:42 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Safire, William L.;","description":"On August 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and William L. Safire talked on the telephone from 9:40 pm to 9:42 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 008-022 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 8-22\n\nDate: August 16, 1971\nTime: 9:40 pm - 9:42 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe President talked with William L. Safire.\n\n     Veterans of Foreign Wars [VFW] speech, August 19, 1971\n          -John K. Andrews, Jr.\n                -Talk with the President\n                -Materials\n          -Content\n\n                -Competition\n                -American spirit\n          -Safire's forthcoming talk with Andrews\n                -Raymond K. Price, Jr.\n          -[Unintelligible]","filename":["008-022.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:33:39","tapeEnd":"00:35:38","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Safire, William L."],"prevCode":"008-021","nextCode":"008-023","transcript":[{"start":3.15,"end":9.75,"text":"Yes, President."},{"start":9.77,"end":10.37,"text":"Andrews is working on the VFW."},{"start":10.39,"end":17.94,"text":"And the materials that we use will not be here."},{"start":17.96,"end":18.46,"text":"Or he could work on that."},{"start":42.03,"end":60.43,"text":"Right."},{"start":60.45,"end":69.62,"text":"Don't use it all."},{"start":69.64,"end":70,"text":"Use what you need."},{"start":70.02,"end":70.27,"text":"Other stuff."},{"start":70.28,"end":70.39,"text":"Okay."},{"start":70.41,"end":70.61,"text":"One of the"},{"start":94.78,"end":107.34,"text":"That's right."},{"start":107.36,"end":107.9,"text":"That's what he wants to do."},{"start":107.92,"end":109.67,"text":"No, well, he may be right."},{"start":109.69,"end":110.11,"text":"He can slam in there."},{"start":110.13,"end":110.93,"text":"In other words, he'd be more newsworthy."},{"start":110.95,"end":111.27,"text":"He may be right."},{"start":111.29,"end":115.89,"text":"He may be right, but he would just sort of be an echo now later on."},{"start":115.91,"end":116.33,"text":"He'd be a real power."},{"start":116.36,"end":116.45,"text":"Good."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and William Safire discussed the drafting process for an upcoming speech to the Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW). They coordinated the involvement of John K. Andrews, Jr. and Raymond K. Price, Jr. regarding the speech's thematic content, specifically focusing on promoting the American spirit and ensuring the address remains impactful and newsworthy rather than derivative.","topics":["VFW speech","Speechwriting","William Safire","John K. Andrews Jr.","American spirit","Public relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:40:55.935Z"},"topicSlugs":["vfw-speech","speechwriting","william-safire","john-k-andrews-jr","american-spirit","public-relations"],"audioDurationSec":119,"audioFiles":[{"file":"008-022.mp3","bytes":2857586,"durationSec":119.01,"bitrate":192085,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.707Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/008-022.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/008-022","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/8/conversation-008-022","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}