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(\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"008-044","nextCode":"008-046","transcript":[{"start":194.16,"end":212.57,"text":"But I think this is a, now, the only other thing that I, the only thing open is whether we do it in Portland or in San Francisco."},{"start":212.59,"end":215.41,"text":"Now, we still have open, of course, the possibility of doing it in Portland at a later time when we come out of that Eisenhower Center thing."},{"start":217.08,"end":239.61,"text":"And I really believe it is much more important."},{"start":239.63,"end":240.44,"text":"And if they want to come up, raise help."},{"start":240.46,"end":241.3,"text":"If we stay at another place, maybe it's..."},{"start":241.44,"end":258.99,"text":"It's so easy to congregate in the church, you know, out there in the square."},{"start":259.01,"end":263.2,"text":"Maybe we stay at the Mark Hopkins or the, uh, is there any possibility of that?"},{"start":263.22,"end":263.84,"text":"Well, how about doing the nope?"},{"start":263.86,"end":264.08,"text":"Well, well."},{"start":264.1,"end":264.38,"text":"Stay down now."},{"start":270.25,"end":289.06,"text":"How about the theory that people are coming in from all over the world and have it down near the airport?"},{"start":289.08,"end":290.86,"text":"How about making a good airport hotel and having it down there?"},{"start":290.88,"end":293.11,"text":"It's a little harder for them to communicate, but you see, that place, Bob, is so logical for people to come."},{"start":293.12,"end":293.77,"text":"Every drunk could be in and out."},{"start":293.79,"end":294.05,"text":"That's right."},{"start":294.07,"end":294.31,"text":"The airport."},{"start":294.33,"end":297.37,"text":"And I really feel that doing it close to the airport, close to the airport, a nice airport hotel, rather than going into some consistent movement there."},{"start":298.23,"end":319.87,"text":"Okay."},{"start":321.82,"end":322.1,"text":"Right."},{"start":322.76,"end":323.42,"text":"Right."},{"start":323.44,"end":325.06,"text":"Right."},{"start":325.08,"end":327.41,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. 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