{"conversationCode":"008-049","tapeNumber":8,"conversationNumber":49,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-008-049","startDateTime":"1971-09-08T17:46:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-08T17:47:00.000Z","startDate":"8-Sep-1971","startTime":"1:46 PM","endDate":"8-Sep-1971","endTime":"1:47 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ehrlichman, John D.;","description":"On September 8, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and John D. Ehrlichman talked on the telephone from 1:46 pm to 1:47 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 008-049 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 8-49\n\nDate: September 8, 1971\nTime: 1:46 pm - 1:47 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nJohn D. Ehrlichman talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 274-34A]\n\n     President’s forthcoming speech to Congress\n          -The President's conversation with Raymond K. Price, Jr.\n                -Price’s conversation with Ehrlichman\n          -Draft\n          -New material\n                -Research\n                      -Apollo 15 astronauts\n                           -Visit to Congress\n                -Ehrlichman’s view\n                -Tax\n                      -George P. Shultz","filename":["008-049.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:40:17","tapeEnd":"01:41:14","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ehrlichman, John D."],"prevCode":"008-048","nextCode":"008-050","transcript":[{"start":4,"end":4.56,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.6,"end":5.5,"text":"Mr. Ehrlichman, sir."},{"start":6.28,"end":6.72,"text":"There you are."},{"start":6.78,"end":7.14,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":7.6,"end":8.72,"text":"Hello, Ray."},{"start":9,"end":10.45,"text":"No, John Ehrlichman, Mr. President."},{"start":10.47,"end":12.11,"text":"No, I'm talking to Ray."},{"start":12.23,"end":12.59,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":14.07,"end":22.77,"text":"John, I was just talking to Ray, and he has already talked to you about this, and we're working on some more of it, and we'll run the final thing."},{"start":22.75,"end":30.47,"text":"But as it is now, I think lifting the lid just a little on this is rather essential in this speech."},{"start":30.49,"end":32.82,"text":"So we've got a little bit of something new."},{"start":32.84,"end":38.2,"text":"And I think particularly the part on research in that it fits in with the moon guys."},{"start":38.22,"end":40.85,"text":"They're going to be there at 2 o'clock."},{"start":40.93,"end":42.55,"text":"It doesn't bother you now?"},{"start":42.57,"end":42.97,"text":"Not a bit."},{"start":43.19,"end":43.59,"text":"Not a bit."},{"start":43.61,"end":45.07,"text":"I like very much the stuff he wrote."},{"start":45.09,"end":46.37,"text":"And how about the tax thing?"},{"start":46.39,"end":48.41,"text":"The tax thing bothers George, but..."},{"start":48.4,"end":52.32,"text":"But I don't, I guess George drew his exceptions after we went through it."},{"start":52.34,"end":54.21,"text":"Well, I don't have any trouble with it at all."},{"start":54.23,"end":55.41,"text":"All right, fine, fine."},{"start":55.44,"end":55.86,"text":"Okay, John."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and John Ehrlichman coordinated on the final preparations for an upcoming address to Congress. The discussion focused on integrating new material regarding scientific research to align with a scheduled appearance by the Apollo 15 astronauts. Additionally, the President dismissed concerns raised by George Shultz regarding specific tax provisions, affirming his comfort with the current draft.","topics":["Address to Congress","Apollo 15","Tax policy","George P. Shultz","Speechwriting"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:43:20.483Z"},"topicSlugs":["address-to-congress","apollo-15","tax-policy","george-p-shultz","speechwriting"],"audioDurationSec":57,"audioFiles":[{"file":"008-049.mp3","bytes":1369860,"durationSec":57.02,"bitrate":192178,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.708Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/008-049.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/008-049","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/8/conversation-008-049","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}