{"conversationCode":"008-065","tapeNumber":8,"conversationNumber":65,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-008-065","startDateTime":"1971-09-09T15:18:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-09T15:23:00.000Z","startDate":"9-Sep-1971","startTime":"11:18 AM","endDate":"9-Sep-1971","endTime":"11:23 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On September 9, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone from 11:18 am to 11:23 am. 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Colson.\n\n     The President's recent speech to Congress\n          -Wire service leads\n               -Clark MacGregor\n               -Compared to State of the Union address\n                      -Public support\n               -Republicans senators\n                      -Statements\n               -MacGregor\n               -Difficulty\n               -Republicans\n               -Media\n                      -Robert J. Dole\n                            -Edmund S. Muskie\n                                 -News summary\n                                 -Washington Post\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 2m 42s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n**********************************************************************","filename":["008-065.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:18:55","tapeEnd":"02:23:36","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"008-064","nextCode":"008-066","transcript":[{"start":1.87,"end":24.28,"text":"yep morning sir i just wondered if you and mcgregor had the boys set to back up the speech yes sir they uh matter of fact they've already they need a bigger effort"},{"start":24.6,"end":43.87,"text":"We know in advance that we have public support for these people."},{"start":43.89,"end":44.83,"text":"We didn't have to have public support for them."},{"start":44.85,"end":45.15,"text":"Right, exactly."},{"start":45.17,"end":46.17,"text":"Well, the wires are already carrying this warning."},{"start":46.2,"end":47.68,"text":"Some more statements by Republican senators replaying some of yesterday's."},{"start":47.7,"end":49.68,"text":"We will have, we have I think a total of 15 that we are planning on staging over the next two days."},{"start":50.15,"end":67.21,"text":"For three days."},{"start":67.23,"end":74.2,"text":"But Clark and I have been..."},{"start":74.22,"end":74.74,"text":"I know it's not that hard."},{"start":74.76,"end":75.62,"text":"Well, that's the difficulty of questioning."},{"start":75.64,"end":76.02,"text":"That's what I mean."},{"start":76.04,"end":78.2,"text":"Put on somebody who criticized you."},{"start":78.22,"end":78.48,"text":"I understand."},{"start":78.5,"end":79.47,"text":"But just tell our guys up there that it depends."},{"start":79.88,"end":98.13,"text":"Well, they are, Mr. President, and the interesting thing is they all want it."},{"start":98.15,"end":98.71,"text":"There's a good feel, really."},{"start":98.73,"end":99.97,"text":"We push some, but others are stepping right out by themselves."},{"start":99.99,"end":100.55,"text":"The attitudes are very good."},{"start":100.57,"end":101.7,"text":"It's just a question of whether the media will carry on."},{"start":101.72,"end":102.42,"text":"Bob Bill took Muskie on yesterday."},{"start":102.44,"end":103.24,"text":"He got a very good wire service story."},{"start":103.26,"end":103.74,"text":"He didn't use it at all."},{"start":103.76,"end":104.22,"text":"No, he didn't touch it."},{"start":104.83,"end":115.11,"text":"Well, it's difficult to get almost a full page of why I service good stuff."},{"start":115.13,"end":116.38,"text":"Kicking my ski gets in your news somewhere just one at a time."},{"start":116.4,"end":116.98,"text":"But the post didn't carry it."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss strategies for mobilizing Republican senators to publicly support the President’s recent address to Congress. Colson reports on the coordinated effort to stage supportive statements from lawmakers over several days to counter potential media indifference. The two express frustration over the mainstream press, specifically the Washington Post, for failing to adequately report on Republican critiques of Democratic rivals like Edmund Muskie.","topics":["Congressional relations","Public relations","Media bias","Republican Party strategy","Edmund Muskie"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:44:47.055Z"},"topicSlugs":["congressional-relations","public-relations","media-bias","republican-party-strategy","edmund-muskie"],"audioDurationSec":282,"audioFiles":[{"file":"008-065.mp3","bytes":6757772,"durationSec":281.51,"bitrate":192041,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.708Z","transcriptGapSeconds":55,"transcriptGapShare":0.19,"transcriptQuality":"incomplete","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/008-065.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/008-065","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/8/conversation-008-065","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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