{"conversationCode":"008-119","tapeNumber":8,"conversationNumber":119,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-008-119","startDateTime":"1971-09-13T23:55:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-13T23:58:00.000Z","startDate":"13-Sep-1971","startTime":"7:55 PM","endDate":"13-Sep-1971","endTime":"7:58 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On September 13, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 7:55 pm to 7:58 pm. 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Shultz\n                   -Partisan statement\n                   -Capitol Hill\n                         -Comment about partisanship\n                   -Attack\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 52s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n******************************************************************************","filename":["008-119.mp3"],"tapeStart":"05:32:42","tapeEnd":"05:35:08","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"008-118","nextCode":"008-120","transcript":[{"start":3.35,"end":4.22,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":5,"end":19.01,"text":"Bob, one thing that occurred to me on the Meany thing is that, you know, we are sort of reluctant to, I mean, naturally reluctant for me to take him on because we may have to work with him and Schultz and all the rest to feel that way."},{"start":20.03,"end":32.91,"text":"But I feel that somebody, I don't know who we can find to do it, and if we can't, we'll have to put, I don't know who the hell we can put in the ring, but somebody ought to take him on pretty strongly on his..."},{"start":33.65,"end":36.71,"text":"you know, his rather partisan statement today."},{"start":36.75,"end":38.75,"text":"What do you think?"},{"start":38.77,"end":40.35,"text":"Well, what is the judgment on that?"},{"start":40.37,"end":40.63,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":40.65,"end":52.63,"text":"Apparently, he was on the Hill today, and up there he said he made the point that he hoped that there would be no partisanship in this and all that."},{"start":52.91,"end":53.31,"text":"I see."},{"start":55.97,"end":58.13,"text":"So he may be trying to take a different tack himself."},{"start":59.17,"end":62.12,"text":"But he generally took an attack line, though, Bob, the way it was."},{"start":62.4,"end":67.69,"text":"He may have said no partisanship, but he also was saying, you know, taking us on."},{"start":67.73,"end":73.32,"text":"Well, we'll see how it sorts out."},{"start":73.46,"end":74.02,"text":"We're going to do it."},{"start":74.04,"end":77.19,"text":"We've got to do it pretty strongly and big."},{"start":77.59,"end":80.53,"text":"There's no point in just piddling in the pond with him."},{"start":80.55,"end":80.77,"text":"Absolutely."},{"start":80.79,"end":81.5,"text":"Absolutely."},{"start":83.82,"end":84.46,"text":"Absolutely."},{"start":141.88,"end":143.3,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":143.64,"end":144.33,"text":"All right, bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H. 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