{"conversationCode":"009-042","tapeNumber":9,"conversationNumber":42,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-009-042","startDateTime":"1971-09-16T17:45:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-16T18:10:00.000Z","startDate":"16-Sep-1971","startTime":"1:45 PM","endDate":"16-Sep-1971","endTime":"2:10 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); White House operator;","description":"On September 16, 1971, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 1:45 pm and 2:10 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 009-042 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 9-42\n\nDate: September 16, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 1:45 pm and 2:10 pm\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nH. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman talked with the White House operator.\n\n[See Conversation No. 278-66A]\n\n     Request for call to Clark MacGregor\n\nHaldeman talked to MacGregor's secretary.\n\n     Request to talk with MacGregor\n\nHaldeman talked with MacGregor.\n\n     Draft issue\n           -Meeting\n                 -Gordon L. Allott's talk with MacGregor\n                      -F. Edward Hébert and Leslie C. Arends","filename":["009-042.mp3"],"tapeStart":"01:26:34","tapeEnd":"01:27:45","participantsList":["Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","White House operator"],"prevCode":"009-041","nextCode":"009-043","transcript":[{"start":1.82,"end":3.64,"text":"Right."},{"start":3.92,"end":4.94,"text":"Clark McGregor, please."},{"start":4.96,"end":5.45,"text":"This is Holloman."},{"start":5.69,"end":6.17,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":6.21,"end":17.98,"text":"Clark McGregor's office."},{"start":18.44,"end":18.9,"text":"This is Bob Holloman."},{"start":18.92,"end":19.81,"text":"Can I speak to Clark, please?"},{"start":20.03,"end":20.81,"text":"One moment, please."},{"start":41.66,"end":42.16,"text":"Yes, Bob."},{"start":42.62,"end":52.92,"text":"Clark, you can tell Allitt that the president will personally talk to Hebert and Ahrens on this thing, but obviously it's got to be understood that that's for his personal knowledge only."},{"start":52.94,"end":53.5,"text":"I understand."},{"start":53.52,"end":56.78,"text":"If he says anything about it, that'll ruin it."},{"start":58.59,"end":62.33,"text":"I mean, wipe out any chance of Ahrens and Hebert cooperating if he says anything."},{"start":62.99,"end":63.43,"text":"All right, I will."},{"start":63.45,"end":63.97,"text":"To anybody."},{"start":64.17,"end":64.92,"text":"I will."},{"start":64.94,"end":67.12,"text":"But you can assure him that the president will do that."},{"start":67.34,"end":67.62,"text":"I will."},{"start":68.22,"end":68.5,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":68.66,"end":68.96,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":69.24,"end":69.48,"text":"All right."},{"start":69.68,"end":69.76,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"H. R. Haldeman coordinates with Clark MacGregor to ensure that Senator Gordon L. Allott is informed that President Nixon will personally intervene with Representatives F. Edward Hébert and Leslie C. Arends regarding an unspecified draft issue. Haldeman emphasizes that the President's involvement must remain strictly confidential to secure the necessary cooperation from the congressmen. MacGregor acknowledges the directive and agrees to convey these instructions to Allott while cautioning against any public disclosure.","topics":["Clark MacGregor","Gordon L. Allott","F. Edward Hébert","Leslie C. Arends","Draft","Confidentiality","Congressional Relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:53:29.904Z"},"topicSlugs":["clark-macgregor","gordon-l-allott","f-edward-h-bert","leslie-c-arends","draft","confidentiality","congressional-relations"],"audioDurationSec":71,"audioFiles":[{"file":"009-042.mp3","bytes":1705272,"durationSec":70.98,"bitrate":192193,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.708Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/009-042.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/009-042","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/9/conversation-009-042","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}