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Conversation 009-048

TapeTape 9StartThursday, September 16, 1971 at 9:06 PMEndThursday, September 16, 1971 at 9:12 PMTape start time01:34:27Tape end time01:40:23ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Buchanan, Patrick J.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
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On September 16, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Patrick J. Buchanan talked on the telephone from 9:06 pm to 9:12 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 009-048 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 9-48

Date: September 16, 1971
Time: 9:06 pm - 9:12 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Patrick J. Buchanan.

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       Governors’ Conference
            -Edmund S. Muskie’s speech

                  -The President’s talk with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman
                        -James B. Reston’s article
                               -Henry A. Kissinger
                  -Patrick J. Buchanan’s talk with William L. Safire
                  -The President’s opinion
                        -Prejudices
                  -George W. Romney
                  -Black response
                        -Jesse L. Jackson
                        -John Conyers, Jr.
                        -Shirley Chisholm
                  -White racist response
                        -Patrick J. Buchanan’s opinion

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     Governors’ Conference
         -Edmund S. Muskie’s speech
               -White racist response
                    -Edward W. Brooke
                          -Supreme Court

     Press reports
           -People's Republic of China [PRC]
           -Nguyen Van Thieu
           -Wage and price controls
           -Edmund S. Muskie

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     Edmund S. Muskie story
         -Campaign coverage
         -Attica Prison Riots
               -Robert F. (“Bobby”) Kennedy

               -Response

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    Edmund S. Muskie story
        -Attica prison riots
              -Nelson A. Rockefeller
              -Pierre Trudeau
                    -Unknown Canadian incident
                          -President’s call

    Foreign affairs
         -Statistics
               -Foreign leaders
                     -Democratic elections
                          -Foreign aid legislation
                                -Greece
                                -Vietnam
                                -Africa

    Press conferences
          -Buchanan's work
               -"Big ten" questions
                    -Buchanan and Ronald L. Ziegler
                    -Conservatives
                          -Draft
                                -Vote
                          -The President
                                -National defense
                                -Antiballistic missile [ABM]
                          -Senate
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Hello.
You know, I thought, too, the Ed Brook thing was good.
I hope Ed Brook reads that.
Because that's quite honest, too.
Brook would make it anyplace.
He really would.
He's the only one, if you can imagine, that I would even consider for the Supreme Court.
Because he belongs in the Supreme Court, you know.
Well, anyway, they were...
What would they lead with?
What kind of thing?
Do you think some will use the muskie story, too?
Oh, yeah, they'll use the muskie story.
Take what that does.
A lot of them pick it up as an item.
It's not a dominant story.
And I think your advice and the way to handle Attica was right.
Did you notice that I just defended Rockefeller's terribly excruciating decision?
And that's that.
And I thought throwing in the Canadian Prime Minister was a good reminder to these bastards.
Did you remember I called him when those two people were killed?
I called him and I said, Mr. Prime Minister, of course he's no friend of mine.
I said, I know it was tough and I just want you to know I admire you.
How'd you like that?
Right.
Well, that's true, you know, that you know that 59 of the 91 countries we give aid to do not have a head of government who was elected by a Democratic election.
So if they stop aid to Greece or aid to Vietnam, so we've got to stop it to 60.
It's only 30 of them are in Africa.
How would you like to do that, huh?
Yeah.
Well, I thought I'd done enough for the afternoon.
Okay, you did a great job on the stuff.
That is the way to prepare it.
The more I think of it, zeroing in on the Big Ten questions, and they're just giving me enough on the others that might come up.
You notice, Pat, how every time they ask the questions you and Ron anticipate, don't they?
Yeah.
You guessed every one of them.
Well, they're right on the mark.
See, we announced it beforehand, though.
Then it's broader because some people sit there and work on the women's liberation question.
Yeah.
But even then, even when you announced beforehand, I still think preparing it for the ten big ones, and then on those silly questions, I'll just sort of finesse it.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
How many stories?
This is a big news conference.
We have to do the four leads, but it's only four.
No more.
We want ten.
That's right.
One thing, of course, we've got to do, Pat.
We've got to.
occurs to me, I think you ought to get a hold of some of your conservatives.
The most important question I asked was with regard to entry, with regard to the draft, where I said the draft, those that voted against the draft would vote for America to be number two.
Those that voted against the draft would vote to sabotage, basically, our peace initiatives.
Now, by God, let's put it to these people.
And the conservatives ought to raise hell, you know.
Hell, I'm the guy that's fighting national defense.
I fought for ABM.
I'm fighting for the draft.
I'm fighting for more appropriations.
The Senate is killing us.
Will you get that across, Joe?
Okay.
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