{"conversationCode":"009-081","tapeNumber":9,"conversationNumber":81,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-009-081","startDateTime":"1971-09-18T15:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-18T15:05:00.000Z","startDate":"18-Sep-1971","startTime":"11:05 AM","endDate":"18-Sep-1971","endTime":"11:05 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Wiggins, Charles E.;","description":"On September 18, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Charles E. Wiggins talked on the telephone at 11:05 am. 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Wiggins\n\nThe President talked with Wiggins between 11:05 am and 11:07 am.\n\n     Wiggins’ wife\n         -Condolences of President and Mrs. Nixon\n         -Family members\n         -Funeral\n               -Whittier, California\n                    -The President's family","filename":["009-081.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:15:14","tapeEnd":"02:16:40","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Wiggins, Charles E."],"prevCode":"009-080","nextCode":"009-082","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":2.73,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":2.75,"end":3.19,"text":"Mr. Wiggins."},{"start":3.4,"end":6.5,"text":"Thank you, Mr. President."},{"start":6.52,"end":7.12,"text":"Ready."},{"start":7.14,"end":7.28,"text":"Chuck."},{"start":7.3,"end":8.26,"text":"Yes, sir, Mr. President."},{"start":8.28,"end":16.77,"text":"Well, as your old neighbor and so forth, I want you to know that Pat and I were deeply distressed to learn about your wife."},{"start":16.89,"end":19.05,"text":"I didn't know that actually that she'd been sick."},{"start":19.35,"end":23.72,"text":"Yes, she had been suffering from this condition for about four years."},{"start":23.74,"end":24.36,"text":"About four years."},{"start":24.64,"end":26.78,"text":"You see, we have..."},{"start":27.13,"end":32.78,"text":"Yeah, we, of course, have seen you around and so forth, and I just haven't kept track of the family as well as I should."},{"start":32.84,"end":33.96,"text":"Well, it's a sad thing."},{"start":34.06,"end":34.54,"text":"Right."},{"start":35.12,"end":41.53,"text":"Well, I suppose under the circumstances, it's just, well, you know, we have to never think of this, but it's well that it's now over."},{"start":42.21,"end":42.81,"text":"Yes, it is."},{"start":43.13,"end":46.4,"text":"Because she must have had a terrible problem in that period of time."},{"start":46.66,"end":50.96,"text":"Well, we're the family, my two boys and I, and her mother is here flying up."},{"start":50.98,"end":51.94,"text":"Right, right."},{"start":52.04,"end":56.23,"text":"And the services will be on Tuesday and Wednesday here at Rose Hill."},{"start":56.34,"end":57.45,"text":"Rose Hills, right."},{"start":57.49,"end":58.95,"text":"That ought to be familiar to you, sir."},{"start":59.01,"end":61.63,"text":"Yes, yes, my mother and my father and two brothers."},{"start":61.92,"end":62.6,"text":"Oh, is that so?"},{"start":62.66,"end":64.44,"text":"Yep, all at Rose Hills."},{"start":65.34,"end":66.79,"text":"And Pat's father there is, too."},{"start":66.89,"end":68.01,"text":"I got it."},{"start":69.17,"end":77.21,"text":"Well, anyway, Chuck, we wish you well, and you express your two boys to our sympathy."},{"start":77.75,"end":78.76,"text":"Okay."},{"start":78.88,"end":80.14,"text":"I most appreciate your call."},{"start":80.16,"end":80.86,"text":"Bye, Chuck."},{"start":81.46,"end":82.36,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":82.46,"end":82.7,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon initiated this phone call to express his personal condolences to Representative Charles E. Wiggins following the recent death of Wiggins' wife. The two discussed the long-term illness leading to her passing and the upcoming funeral services scheduled at Rose Hills Memorial Park. Nixon noted that the location held personal significance, as several members of his own family are also interred there.","topics":["Charles E. Wiggins","Condolences","Rose Hills Memorial Park","Personal bereavement"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T22:56:59.007Z"},"topicSlugs":["charles-e-wiggins","condolences","rose-hills-memorial-park","personal-bereavement"],"audioDurationSec":83,"audioFiles":[{"file":"009-081.mp3","bytes":1985514,"durationSec":82.66,"bitrate":192154,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:21.708Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/009-081.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/009-081","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/9/conversation-009-081","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). 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