{"conversationCode":"009-090","tapeNumber":9,"conversationNumber":90,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-009-090","startDateTime":"1971-09-20T14:50:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-09-20T15:23:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Sep-1971","startTime":"10:50 AM","endDate":"20-Sep-1971","endTime":"11:23 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Connally, John B.; Petty, John R.;","description":"On September 20, 1971, John B. Connally and John R. Petty talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:50 am and 11:23 am. 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Petty.\n\n[See Conversation No. 576-8C]\n\n     Meeting with the President\n\n     Treasury Department reception\n          -Time and location\n          -Smithsonian\n\n     Official functions\n\n     Treasury Department reception for members of the International Monetary Fund [IMF]\n          -Attendants\n               -Finance Ministers\n               -Central bank governors\n               -Numbers\n               -Paul A. Volcker\n               -Past numbers","filename":["009-090.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:27:16","tapeEnd":"02:29:46","participantsList":["Connally, John B.","Petty, John R."],"prevCode":"009-089","nextCode":"009-091","transcript":[{"start":0.15,"end":2.07,"text":"Hello."},{"start":2.13,"end":2.57,"text":"I have Mr."},{"start":2.63,"end":2.98,"text":"Petty."},{"start":3.4,"end":3.84,"text":"All right."},{"start":3.86,"end":4.22,"text":"John."},{"start":5.7,"end":6,"text":"John."},{"start":6.22,"end":6.58,"text":"Hello."},{"start":6.88,"end":7.14,"text":"John."},{"start":7.28,"end":7.62,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":9.07,"end":9.97,"text":"I'm here with the president."},{"start":10.11,"end":11.73,"text":"We're trying to get these dates."},{"start":12.76,"end":14.02,"text":"You don't have your calendar with you, do you?"},{"start":14.04,"end":14.98,"text":"You're not in the office, are you?"},{"start":15.3,"end":15.52,"text":"I am."},{"start":15.56,"end":15.96,"text":"I might ask."},{"start":15.98,"end":16.28,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":16.44,"end":16.91,"text":"Oh, you are?"},{"start":16.93,"end":19.05,"text":"Okay."},{"start":19.07,"end":19.39,"text":"What..."},{"start":19.93,"end":22.77,"text":"What night is Treasury planning on having its reception?"},{"start":23.03,"end":23.67,"text":"Wednesday."},{"start":23.69,"end":24.87,"text":"Wednesday what?"},{"start":25.57,"end":26.87,"text":"Wednesday, September 29th."},{"start":26.89,"end":28.21,"text":"Wednesday, September 29th."},{"start":28.58,"end":29.76,"text":"Okay."},{"start":29.78,"end":31.96,"text":"That's at the flag hall at the Smithsonian."},{"start":31.98,"end":32.08,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":32.54,"end":32.76,"text":"Okay."},{"start":33.3,"end":38.45,"text":"Now, what other events are taking place?"},{"start":38.65,"end":44.51,"text":"Assume for the moment that the President might want to have a reception and supplant the Treasury, but soon we want to have it some other night."},{"start":45.53,"end":47.66,"text":"What night would be the best?"},{"start":48.41,"end":51.12,"text":"What other official functions are there, in other words?"},{"start":51.26,"end":61.77,"text":"There are a whole series of different countries that give their own receptions for their visiting ministers."},{"start":62.65,"end":67.39,"text":"And ordinarily, Wednesday night has been reserved pretty much for the U.S. big show."},{"start":67.85,"end":69.53,"text":"Wednesday the 29th."},{"start":69.55,"end":73.78,"text":"Now, if we chose any other time, obviously we'd be preempting"},{"start":74.55,"end":75.81,"text":"which is possible."},{"start":77.86,"end":81.44,"text":"Every other night there are a bunch of parties being given functions."},{"start":81.64,"end":86.12,"text":"And there's not much competition with the U.S. from 6 to 8 o'clock on Wednesday."},{"start":86.77,"end":86.91,"text":"Okay."},{"start":87.77,"end":89.71,"text":"Now, what's the least number of people that we could invite?"},{"start":90.27,"end":91.47,"text":"Who comes to this IMF?"},{"start":91.95,"end":93.21,"text":"Obviously the finance minister."},{"start":93.23,"end":99.8,"text":"The finance minister and the central bank governor are almost always the delegates, and they have their undersecretaries."},{"start":99.86,"end":102.36,"text":"Most of them come with their wives."},{"start":102.83,"end":105.8,"text":"Okay, so you do have the central bank governors."},{"start":106.2,"end":107.02,"text":"Central bank governors."},{"start":107.08,"end":109.32,"text":"Let's say there's 120 country members."},{"start":109.66,"end":109.8,"text":"Right."},{"start":110,"end":110.88,"text":"How many of them will be here?"},{"start":111.44,"end":112.18,"text":"Oh, they'll all be here."},{"start":112.32,"end":113.5,"text":"They'll all be here, 120 of them."},{"start":113.86,"end":114.11,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":114.12,"end":120.69,"text":"120 finance ministers and their wives and 120 central bank governors and their wives."},{"start":120.79,"end":126.28,"text":"And there's, in addition to that, there's sort of the Paul Volkers of the delegation, things like that."},{"start":127.46,"end":130.34,"text":"Now, at the..."},{"start":130.71,"end":138,"text":"The Secretary's reception in the past, we've invited as much as, oh, about 22 to 2,500 to about 1,500 coming."},{"start":138.61,"end":138.71,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":139.05,"end":145.84,"text":"Now, that includes the big banks of the respective countries that are in town, and they don't need to become that type of thing."},{"start":145.86,"end":146.74,"text":"Okay."},{"start":146.76,"end":147.08,"text":"Okay."},{"start":147.44,"end":148.2,"text":"Thanks very much."},{"start":148.56,"end":148.76,"text":"Okay."},{"start":150.11,"end":150.19,"text":"Bye."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Treasury Secretary John Connally and John R. 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