{"conversationCode":"010-063","tapeNumber":10,"conversationNumber":63,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-010-063","startDateTime":"1971-10-06T12:09:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-06T12:21:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Oct-1971","startTime":"8:09 AM","endDate":"6-Oct-1971","endTime":"8:21 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Dent, Harry S.;","description":"On October 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Harry S. Dent talked on the telephone from 8:09 am to 8:21 am. 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Dent\n\nThe President talked with Dent between 8:09 am and 8:21 am.\n\n[See Conversation No. 283-10]\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 6m 59s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n    Textiles\n         -Anthony J. Jurich\n              -Japan\n              -Taiwan, Republic of China\n              -Japan\n                   -State Department efforts\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 1m 29s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3\n\n**********************************************************************\n\n    Campaign contribution\n        -John Rollins\n             -President’s knowledge\n             -John N. Mitchell\n             -H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman\n\n**********************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4\n[Personal Returnable]\n[Duration: 2m 43s ]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4\n\n**********************************************************************","filename":["010-063.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:04:44","tapeEnd":"02:17:11","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator","Dent, Harry S."],"prevCode":"010-062","nextCode":"010-064","transcript":[{"start":0.99,"end":1.38,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":1.6,"end":2.93,"text":"I have Mr. Dent, Mr. President."},{"start":3.21,"end":3.45,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.16,"end":4.76,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":422.45,"end":426.07,"text":"Mr. President, one thing, too, on this textile question."},{"start":426.75,"end":430.42,"text":"I talked to this fellow, Jurek, who was back yesterday from over there in Japan."},{"start":430.98,"end":436.12,"text":"He's got Taiwan in his pocket, and he thinks he's got Japan 90% lined up."},{"start":436.66,"end":439.12,"text":"But there's one essential thing he says."},{"start":439.1,"end":445.45,"text":"there's been too much undercutting of him by state saying that, you know, we're not going to really do this thing on October 15th if they don't do it."},{"start":445.47,"end":452.58,"text":"And he says it's absolutely essential that that position be maintained to enable him to avoid you a problem on the 15th."},{"start":452.73,"end":454.33,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":454.35,"end":454.69,"text":"All right."},{"start":454.89,"end":455.21,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":455.23,"end":456.81,"text":"We'll try to keep him from undercutting us."},{"start":457.07,"end":457.37,"text":"Right, sir."},{"start":457.67,"end":457.95,"text":"Right."},{"start":458.54,"end":458.81,"text":"Right."},{"start":547.84,"end":551.61,"text":"John Rollins is willing to raise some money to put into such a thing."},{"start":551.63,"end":553.79,"text":"That's what he wants to talk to you about privately."},{"start":554.01,"end":555.55,"text":"Well, let me tell you this."},{"start":555.73,"end":556.98,"text":"He should not talk to me about it."},{"start":557,"end":560.02,"text":"He mentioned it a little, but I mustn't know one thing about it."},{"start":560.38,"end":562.82,"text":"Now, the fellow that he should talk to about that is Mitchell."},{"start":562.96,"end":563.4,"text":"Mitchell knows."},{"start":563.84,"end":565.02,"text":"I'll head him in that direction."},{"start":565.04,"end":566.83,"text":"Mitchell is all on salvo on it."},{"start":567.07,"end":567.29,"text":"Right."},{"start":568.35,"end":568.91,"text":"Or wait a minute."},{"start":570.03,"end":570.93,"text":"I'm Dr. Holliman."},{"start":571.49,"end":572.53,"text":"That's a little bit better."},{"start":573.48,"end":574.76,"text":"He'll think he's a little closer to me."},{"start":574.78,"end":575.02,"text":"Right."},{"start":575.58,"end":577.11,"text":"Because it can be done."},{"start":577.55,"end":577.75,"text":"Right."},{"start":577.79,"end":578.52,"text":"It can be done."},{"start":579.66,"end":581.01,"text":"He'll put money in there."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Harry S. Dent discuss ongoing negotiations regarding textile trade agreements with Japan and Taiwan, specifically addressing the need to prevent the State Department from undermining the October 15th deadline. Additionally, the pair consults on a potential campaign contribution from John Rollins. Nixon explicitly directs Dent to ensure that all financial discussions are handled by John Mitchell or H. R. Haldeman to maintain the President's personal distance from the solicitation.","topics":["Textiles","Japan","Taiwan","Campaign Finance","John N. Mitchell","H. R. 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