{"conversationCode":"010-076","tapeNumber":10,"conversationNumber":76,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-010-076","startDateTime":"1971-10-06T15:36:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-06T15:39:00.000Z","startDate":"6-Oct-1971","startTime":"11:36 AM","endDate":"6-Oct-1971","endTime":"11:39 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.;","description":"On October 6, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Ronald L. Ziegler talked on the telephone from 11:36 am to 11:39 am. 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(“Bob”) Haldeman\n           -Cabinet meeting, October 8\n           -John B. Connally press conference\n                 -Coverage\n           -Length of upcoming speech","filename":["010-076.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:32:57","tapeEnd":"02:35:59","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Ziegler, Ronald L."],"prevCode":"010-075","nextCode":"010-077","transcript":[{"start":1.77,"end":3.37,"text":"Mr. Ziegler, sir."},{"start":4.07,"end":4.47,"text":"On the line."},{"start":4.85,"end":5.19,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":5.33,"end":7.78,"text":"Did you get off the announcement about the speech?"},{"start":9.28,"end":10.76,"text":"I'm going to do that at my briefing."},{"start":10.82,"end":11.58,"text":"I haven't briefed."},{"start":12.04,"end":15.35,"text":"I'm delaying just a slight time on this Taft-Hartley thing."},{"start":15.99,"end":19.75,"text":"What I'm going to say is that you have the report under review, and you're reviewing it now."},{"start":19.77,"end":21.14,"text":"You've been talking to the Secretary of Labor."},{"start":21.16,"end":25.66,"text":"And then at about 2 o'clock, we're going to announce the move for an injunction."},{"start":26.42,"end":30.51,"text":"But I am going to announce at 11.30 the 7.30 time."},{"start":32.11,"end":32.81,"text":"For tomorrow night?"},{"start":32.89,"end":33.17,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":33.33,"end":44.81,"text":"Well, you might as well announce to, if Haldeman has it, that we'll be a... We're going to have a 4.30 meeting for a briefing for legislative leaders."},{"start":45.95,"end":46.85,"text":"On Thursday?"},{"start":47.03,"end":47.75,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":47.77,"end":48.13,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":48.25,"end":48.67,"text":"Tomorrow."},{"start":49.35,"end":55.3,"text":"And we're going to have a cabinet meeting Friday on the thing."},{"start":55.68,"end":55.94,"text":"All right."},{"start":56.4,"end":57.97,"text":"If you want to get a proper buildup."},{"start":58.01,"end":61.07,"text":"And also, I think we ought to announce to Connolly..."},{"start":61.76,"end":63.94,"text":"When do you want to announce his press conference on Sunday?"},{"start":63.96,"end":65.91,"text":"I think we wait until Thursday on that, Mr. President."},{"start":66.43,"end":67.13,"text":"Tomorrow, that is."},{"start":67.15,"end":67.39,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":69.09,"end":71.39,"text":"Well, maybe you can announce the legislative leaders then Thursday."},{"start":71.45,"end":77.82,"text":"Right, I'll announce the... Yeah, announce all of that Thursday, then Thursday morning you can announce the legislative leaders."},{"start":77.92,"end":78.36,"text":"Right."},{"start":79.13,"end":81.37,"text":"You can announce the president will speak at what?"},{"start":81.39,"end":84.25,"text":"I'll announce the fact that you will speak today at 7.30."},{"start":84.66,"end":86.76,"text":"Yeah, and just that, and then Thursday morning."},{"start":86.78,"end":87.88,"text":"And hold the other for Thursday."},{"start":87.9,"end":88.02,"text":"Right."},{"start":88.44,"end":117.84,"text":"and that and that the press secretary of the treasury will have the president will speak at 7 30 and uh that there will be a secretary to have a press conference at 12 o'clock i want to try to get his press conference carried again i think they will because of its enormous importance particularly at that time 12 noon i'm sure they will sort of a dead time for them all right all right fine okay should i indicate the length of your uh address"},{"start":118.48,"end":119.34,"text":"Yeah, I think so."},{"start":119.36,"end":120.2,"text":"Tell him that I will."},{"start":123.16,"end":123.98,"text":"Or do you think we should?"},{"start":124.55,"end":129.17,"text":"Don't you think it may discount it some to say that it's going to be 15 minutes?"},{"start":129.19,"end":130.51,"text":"Well, you've normally..."},{"start":130.53,"end":132.18,"text":"I'll just say, I don't know at this time."},{"start":132.82,"end":134.98,"text":"I'll just say, I don't know how long it'll be at this time."},{"start":135,"end":144.44,"text":"He's still in the process of reviewing the materials and meetings today on the... Actually, it's going to be less than 15 minutes."},{"start":144.75,"end":144.98,"text":"Yes."},{"start":145.12,"end":147.74,"text":"It'll be between perhaps 12 to 15 minutes."},{"start":147.76,"end":147.96,"text":"Right."},{"start":148.48,"end":150.92,"text":"I think that's a good time."},{"start":150.94,"end":152.57,"text":"But I don't know whether we want to say that."},{"start":152.95,"end":153.65,"text":"I'm just wondering."},{"start":153.67,"end":154.79,"text":"I don't think I should say that."},{"start":154.81,"end":155.51,"text":"I'm just wondering."},{"start":155.79,"end":157.24,"text":"I wonder if you want to say it even tomorrow."},{"start":157.8,"end":166.37,"text":"For the reason that, as far as the listening audience is concerned, I think it's not so important if we're just going to say so little."},{"start":167.6,"end":169.16,"text":"I think you're right."},{"start":169.21,"end":170.53,"text":"There's no need for me to give them the life."},{"start":170.55,"end":171.47,"text":"I just wouldn't give them the life."},{"start":174.32,"end":174.97,"text":"All right."},{"start":175.1,"end":178.36,"text":"Because let's let the people think it's going to be a major statement and let her go."},{"start":178.38,"end":178.96,"text":"Okay?"},{"start":179.1,"end":180.34,"text":"Okay, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler coordinate the rollout of upcoming announcements, specifically focusing on the timing of a presidential speech and the handling of the West Coast dock strike via a Taft-Hartley injunction. They discuss the strategic sequencing of media briefings regarding legislative leader meetings, a cabinet meeting, and a press conference for Treasury Secretary John B. Connally. Nixon instructs Ziegler to keep the duration of his upcoming address vague to maintain the perception of a major, high-stakes statement.","topics":["West Coast Dock Strike","Taft-Hartley Act","Public Relations","Presidential Speech","John B. 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