{"conversationCode":"011-021","tapeNumber":11,"conversationNumber":21,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-011-021","startDateTime":"1971-10-08T01:53:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-08T03:35:00.000Z","startDate":"7-Oct-1971","startTime":"9:53 PM","endDate":"7-Oct-1971","endTime":"11:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Colson, Charles W.;","description":"On October 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Charles W. Colson talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:53 pm and 11:35 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 011-021 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 011-021\n\n Date: October 7, 1971\n Time: Unknown between 9:53 pm and 11:35 pm\n Location: White House Telephone\n\n The President talked with Charles W. Colson.\n\n        Kennedy Center\n            -Interservice Symphonic band\n            -The President's schedule","filename":["011-021.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:32:44","tapeEnd":"00:33:53","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Colson, Charles W."],"prevCode":"011-020","nextCode":"011-022","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":5.46,"text":"Mr. President, there are about 2,700 people there, and they're mixed."},{"start":5.48,"end":6.88,"text":"It's two-thirds in black tie."},{"start":6.92,"end":9.51,"text":"They're all service people."},{"start":9.79,"end":10.79,"text":"One-third in business suits."},{"start":10.81,"end":14.53,"text":"They've got about another half hour to play, although if you wanted to go... Only a half hour."},{"start":14.83,"end":16.59,"text":"Well, if you wanted to go, we could call them."},{"start":16.61,"end":24,"text":"I'm sure they'd keep playing."},{"start":24.03,"end":25.77,"text":"Well, what did you say about their black tie?"},{"start":26.47,"end":26.82,"text":"No."},{"start":27.16,"end":30.18,"text":"The Navy had it all black tie and the other services were mixed."},{"start":30.2,"end":34.65,"text":"So the girl that we just talked to over there said that it was about, it was mixed."},{"start":34.81,"end":40.86,"text":"She would guess about two-thirds in uniform dress were black tie."},{"start":40.88,"end":42.56,"text":"I think you'll find they're mostly military people, so it wouldn't matter that much."},{"start":42.58,"end":47.35,"text":"I wouldn't think if you wanted to go that it would be objectionable at all to go in a business suit."},{"start":51.95,"end":62.18,"text":"Well, I'll tell you, you call them, tell them I'm coming, and they hold a seat for me in the presidential box."},{"start":62.2,"end":63.62,"text":"I'll do it right now and tell them to keep playing until you get there."},{"start":63.64,"end":64.5,"text":"No, no, I'll be there in about ten minutes."},{"start":64.52,"end":64.7,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":64.72,"end":64.8,"text":"Bye."},{"start":64.82,"end":65.2,"text":"Bye, Mr. President."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and Charles Colson discuss the logistics of the President’s last-minute attendance at a performance by the Interservice Symphonic band at the Kennedy Center. Colson provides details regarding the dress code and composition of the audience to ensure the President feels comfortable appearing in a business suit. Nixon ultimately decides to attend and directs Colson to notify the event organizers to hold the presidential box for his arrival within ten minutes.","topics":["Richard Nixon","Charles Colson","Kennedy Center","Presidential schedule","Interservice Symphonic band"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T23:17:12.168Z"},"topicSlugs":["richard-nixon","charles-colson","kennedy-center","presidential-schedule","interservice-symphonic-band"],"audioDurationSec":68,"audioFiles":[{"file":"011-021.mp3","bytes":2168949,"durationSec":67.66,"bitrate":256435,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:22.039Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:35.682Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/011-021.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/011-021","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/11/conversation-011-021","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}