{"conversationCode":"011-036","tapeNumber":11,"conversationNumber":36,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-011-036","startDateTime":"1971-10-11T18:25:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-11T18:27:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Oct-1971","startTime":"2:25 PM","endDate":"11-Oct-1971","endTime":"2:27 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\");","description":"On October 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman talked on the telephone from 2:25 pm to 2:27 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 011-036 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 011-036\n\n Date: October 11, 1971\n Time: 2:25 pm - 2:27 pm\n Location: White House Telephone\n\n The President talked with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.\n\n [See Conversation No. 287-10]\n\n        The President's schedule\n             -George P. Shultz\n                  -Labor\n                         -Patrick J. Buchanan\n                         -George Meany\n                               -Possible meeting with the President","filename":["011-036.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:56:45","tapeEnd":"00:58:02","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")"],"prevCode":"011-035","nextCode":"011-037","transcript":[{"start":0.03,"end":3.44,"text":"Mr. Haldeman, sir."},{"start":3.46,"end":4.36,"text":"President, Mr. Haldeman."},{"start":4.38,"end":4.58,"text":"Sir?"},{"start":4.76,"end":5.46,"text":"Hi, Bob."},{"start":5.56,"end":8.5,"text":"George says that 5 o'clock is fine."},{"start":8.54,"end":10.85,"text":"He does want to get into the labor question."},{"start":11.75,"end":12.09,"text":"Right."},{"start":12.15,"end":29.19,"text":"And one point he raises is, because he's trying to work out these questions for Pat, you know, the answers, is that the question of whether you want to be in the position of meeting, of having a press conference or answering questions with the press when Meany is going to be about to come out with a statement."},{"start":30.27,"end":31.11,"text":"Oh, sure."},{"start":32.14,"end":34.73,"text":"Because they, which we don't know what it'll be."},{"start":34.77,"end":38.62,"text":"The other point is that Meany apparently is angling to set up a meeting with you."},{"start":38.69,"end":41.07,"text":"All of our people think that you should not meet with him."},{"start":41.63,"end":68.44,"text":"no that's right and uh whatever george says i won't unless you wanted to get into anything any either of those points earlier five o'clock no no no no i should not meet with meanie right and uh that's for others to do right and as far as the uh as far as the press thing is concerned uh george of course doesn't know why we're having it right that's right and the and but but the main thing is i will i'll just just stone fish stone wallet yeah i mean i'll be in there and i'll see uh"},{"start":68.81,"end":70.38,"text":"I have no comment on that."},{"start":70.4,"end":71.18,"text":"I'll have to wait to see."},{"start":71.44,"end":71.63,"text":"Right."},{"start":72.73,"end":73.7,"text":"Let it speak for itself."},{"start":73.72,"end":73.92,"text":"Sure."},{"start":74.16,"end":74.54,"text":"Bye."},{"start":74.56,"end":74.94,"text":"Okay."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and H.R. Haldeman discussed scheduling for a meeting with George Shultz to address pressing labor issues and potential strategy regarding AFL-CIO leader George Meany. The President concurred with advisors that he should avoid a direct meeting with Meany to prevent political complications. Furthermore, Nixon decided to maintain a neutral, non-committal stance toward the press regarding Meany's anticipated public statements.","topics":["George Meany","George P. Shultz","Labor Relations","Presidential Strategy","Press Relations"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T23:18:34.259Z"},"topicSlugs":["george-meany","george-p-shultz","labor-relations","presidential-strategy","press-relations"],"audioDurationSec":76,"audioFiles":[{"file":"011-036.mp3","bytes":2444802,"durationSec":76.29,"bitrate":256367,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:22.040Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/011-036.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/011-036","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/11/conversation-011-036","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}