{"conversationCode":"011-042","tapeNumber":11,"conversationNumber":42,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-011-042","startDateTime":"1971-10-11T20:33:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-11T20:35:00.000Z","startDate":"11-Oct-1971","startTime":"4:33 PM","endDate":"11-Oct-1971","endTime":"4:35 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Shultz, George P.;","description":"On October 11, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and George P. Shultz talked on the telephone from 4:33 pm to 4:35 pm. 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(President)","Shultz, George P."],"prevCode":"011-041","nextCode":"011-043","transcript":[{"start":0.93,"end":2.49,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":3.39,"end":6.59,"text":"Whenever you're ready, George, I can go over that stuff with you."},{"start":6.75,"end":8.71,"text":"Okay, why don't I come right along?"},{"start":8.75,"end":13.72,"text":"I thought I'd bring Don Rumsfeld with me, if that's all right."},{"start":13.74,"end":14.48,"text":"Yeah, yeah."},{"start":14.5,"end":16.18,"text":"He's the new director of that, so."},{"start":16.2,"end":17.07,"text":"Yeah, that's fine."},{"start":17.11,"end":22.85,"text":"The only thing I was going to say is that I would prefer to concentrate, however, on things that might come up in this conference tomorrow."},{"start":22.89,"end":25.73,"text":"I don't want to go into any long-range plans at this point."},{"start":26.14,"end":27.3,"text":"Just the questions, you see."},{"start":27.32,"end":29.56,"text":"The executive council meeting you mean?"},{"start":29.58,"end":30.62,"text":"No, no, no, no, no, no, no."},{"start":30.66,"end":31.62,"text":"I'm not going to talk about that."},{"start":32.1,"end":34.57,"text":"I mean when I meet, when I do my press thing tomorrow."},{"start":35.39,"end":35.49,"text":"Oh."},{"start":35.69,"end":37.09,"text":"That's what I'm trying to think about now."},{"start":37.17,"end":37.83,"text":"I don't want to get..."},{"start":37.85,"end":38.17,"text":"I see."},{"start":38.33,"end":40.25,"text":"I don't want to get into long-range problems now."},{"start":40.33,"end":41.16,"text":"I'd prefer not to."},{"start":41.84,"end":48.9,"text":"Well, we wanted to get your okay on a..."},{"start":49.63,"end":53.06,"text":"A move that Hudson might make tonight or early tomorrow morning with us."},{"start":53.18,"end":54.74,"text":"Oh, sure, that sort of thing, of course."},{"start":54.76,"end":55.42,"text":"No, that's what I meant."},{"start":56.47,"end":59.93,"text":"I just meant let's concentrate on things we have to do tomorrow."},{"start":59.95,"end":60.21,"text":"Okay, fine."},{"start":60.92,"end":62,"text":"All right, I'll be right back."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon and George P. Shultz coordinate an upcoming meeting to prepare for the President's scheduled press conference. Nixon emphasizes his desire to focus exclusively on immediate, short-term issues and pending administrative actions rather than long-range policy planning. Shultz receives approval to bring Donald Rumsfeld to the meeting and confirms that they will prioritize time-sensitive matters, including a potential move by James D. Hodgson.","topics":["Press Conference","Administrative Planning","George P. Shultz","Donald Rumsfeld","James D. 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