{"conversationCode":"011-093","tapeNumber":11,"conversationNumber":93,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-011-093","startDateTime":"1971-10-14T13:14:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-14T22:06:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Oct-1971","startTime":"9:14 AM","endDate":"14-Oct-1971","endTime":"6:06 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Kissinger, Henry A.; Smith, Gerard C.;","description":"On October 14, 1971, Henry A. Kissinger and Gerard C. Smith talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:14 am and 6:06 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 011-093 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 011-093\n\n Date: October 14, 1971\n Time: Unknown between 9:14 am and 6:06 pm\n Location: White House Telephone\n\n Henry A. Kissinger talked with Gerard C. Smith.\n\n [See Conversation No. 289-18H]\n\n        George A. Smathers\n             -Application of criteria for clearance\n\nRichard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542","filename":["011-093.mp3"],"tapeStart":"02:26:31","tapeEnd":"02:27:10","participantsList":["Kissinger, Henry A.","Smith, Gerard C."],"prevCode":"011-092","nextCode":"011-094","transcript":[{"start":1.03,"end":1.51,"text":"Hello."},{"start":1.75,"end":3.03,"text":"Ambassador Smith on the line, sir."},{"start":3.87,"end":4.85,"text":"Hello, Jerry."},{"start":6.24,"end":10.02,"text":"I didn't have a chance to get back to you earlier about the matters matter."},{"start":10.24,"end":10.48,"text":"Yes."},{"start":11.06,"end":12.97,"text":"And I've had a chance to check with our people."},{"start":13.11,"end":19.44,"text":"Our people feel you ought to apply your normal criteria, which, as I understand it, is that"},{"start":20.25,"end":25.22,"text":"When 54 are favorable and one is not, that you would then clear him."},{"start":25.66,"end":26.56,"text":"Okay, will do."},{"start":26.7,"end":31.15,"text":"And that you shouldn't weight that one negative."},{"start":31.91,"end":33.01,"text":"All right, will do."},{"start":33.37,"end":33.77,"text":"Okay."},{"start":33.93,"end":34.29,"text":"Thank you."},{"start":34.41,"end":34.91,"text":"Thank you."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"Henry A. Kissinger and Gerard C. Smith conferred to establish clearance protocols for an individual under review. Kissinger instructed Smith to adhere to standard vetting criteria, specifically directing that a single negative evaluation should not be weighted heavily when the vast majority of findings are favorable. Smith agreed to follow these instructions and proceed with the clearance accordingly.","topics":["Security clearance","Personnel policy","Vetting procedures","Government administration"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T23:23:49.551Z"},"topicSlugs":["security-clearance","personnel-policy","vetting-procedures","government-administration"],"audioDurationSec":36,"audioFiles":[{"file":"011-093.mp3","bytes":1168355,"durationSec":36.39,"bitrate":256817,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:22.040Z","findingAidSource":"nixonlibrary.gov subject log (2024-05), reslice-v2","findingAidUpdatedAt":"2026-09-18T08:42:35.691Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/011-093.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/011-093","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/11/conversation-011-093","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}