{"conversationCode":"011-094","tapeNumber":11,"conversationNumber":94,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-011-094","startDateTime":"1971-10-14T13:14:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-14T22:06:00.000Z","startDate":"14-Oct-1971","startTime":"9:14 AM","endDate":"14-Oct-1971","endTime":"6:06 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On October 14, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 9:14 am and 6:06 pm. 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(President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"011-093","nextCode":"011-095","transcript":[{"start":1.99,"end":2.33,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":2.47,"end":4.57,"text":"Mitch Ziegler, he was tied up in traffic."},{"start":4.99,"end":5.77,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":7.07,"end":7.43,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":8.55,"end":12.04,"text":"On the thing today, I will start at approximately 1125."},{"start":12.08,"end":14,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":14.02,"end":16.6,"text":"I'll just walk out of there, and don't tell them anything."},{"start":17.04,"end":17.62,"text":"No."},{"start":17.66,"end":19.13,"text":"Just let them think it's your briefing."},{"start":19.69,"end":20.29,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":21.57,"end":29.2,"text":"And they then have, you can just, who, Carmere?"},{"start":29.58,"end":30.58,"text":"He'd be the one to cut it off."},{"start":31.08,"end":32.52,"text":"I want to cut off at 5 minutes to 12."},{"start":32.54,"end":34.01,"text":"5 to 12?"},{"start":34.09,"end":34.62,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":34.65,"end":34.85,"text":"All right."},{"start":34.87,"end":36.63,"text":"Because I have the leaders at 12 o'clock."},{"start":36.71,"end":38.21,"text":"I have to brief the leaders on a matter."},{"start":38.75,"end":38.97,"text":"Right."},{"start":39.17,"end":40.33,"text":"I'll have an announcement to make."},{"start":40.53,"end":42.8,"text":"Now, at 5 to 12, I want to cut off sharp."},{"start":43.96,"end":44.7,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":44.72,"end":45.56,"text":"Fine."},{"start":45.58,"end":45.74,"text":"Okay."},{"start":45.76,"end":48.32,"text":"And you plan to take questions right in the bathroom?"},{"start":48.7,"end":49.02,"text":"Oh, yes."},{"start":49.12,"end":49.58,"text":"Yes."},{"start":49.92,"end":50.83,"text":"And they can film."},{"start":50.87,"end":51.89,"text":"They can film?"},{"start":52.03,"end":52.77,"text":"They can film."},{"start":52.85,"end":53.35,"text":"I'll come out."},{"start":53.39,"end":56.63,"text":"You can say I'll have... Tell them that the president will..."},{"start":57.32,"end":61.15,"text":"At 1125, just a minute before I come."},{"start":61.17,"end":62.57,"text":"They can set up film quickly, can't they?"},{"start":62.99,"end":66.99,"text":"Well, can't you tell them you've got... Yeah, I'll tell them to set up film."},{"start":67.01,"end":68.68,"text":"Why don't you tell them that you can film..."},{"start":68.7,"end":69.36,"text":"I'll have it announced."},{"start":69.44,"end":69.9,"text":"No, wait a minute."},{"start":70.14,"end":72.74,"text":"On the basis that something was happening that might happen on phase two."},{"start":74.1,"end":74.78,"text":"See that point?"},{"start":74.8,"end":74.96,"text":"Right."},{"start":75.42,"end":78.23,"text":"I want them off on that herring off on that point."},{"start":78.27,"end":78.73,"text":"See what I mean?"},{"start":79.01,"end":79.41,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":79.43,"end":85.56,"text":"Say, look, in view of the fact that this thing is going on, you can set up film today, and if I have anything, you can film it."},{"start":85.74,"end":86.42,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":86.7,"end":87.04,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":87.6,"end":88.34,"text":"Fine."},{"start":88.44,"end":91.61,"text":"Have it then just repeat."},{"start":92.07,"end":97.83,"text":"You go out 1125, I'll be out, and we'll cut her off at... 1155."},{"start":97.87,"end":101.3,"text":"1155, 1125 in that ballpark."},{"start":101.42,"end":101.62,"text":"Right."},{"start":102.08,"end":105.06,"text":"And 1155, they can be cut."},{"start":105.42,"end":108.15,"text":"Will you take questions on all subjects, or should I limit that?"},{"start":108.27,"end":108.83,"text":"I will."},{"start":108.85,"end":110.19,"text":"I'll tell them."},{"start":110.21,"end":111.45,"text":"Okay, you will tell them."},{"start":111.69,"end":112.51,"text":"I'll tell them, yeah."},{"start":112.53,"end":113.75,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":113.89,"end":115.69,"text":"And we can cover everything."},{"start":116.47,"end":121.84,"text":"And I'm going to let them cover anything they want, but we'll see about that."},{"start":122.24,"end":126,"text":"Now, one thing I don't know, are you going to do any briefing before then?"},{"start":126.25,"end":127.83,"text":"No, sir, I won't at all."},{"start":127.85,"end":132.26,"text":"No, because it's not uncommon for me not to go right at 11 o'clock."},{"start":132.28,"end":133.78,"text":"So this will be very natural."},{"start":133.8,"end":137.56,"text":"In the event that the question raised..."},{"start":137.97,"end":151.56,"text":"One of our boys got off the reservation on the bird thing and just blew a beautiful play I was trying to make here, saying that he was not under consideration, you know, that he was not, probably wasn't going to be appointed."},{"start":152.22,"end":153.73,"text":"You are to completely reverse that."},{"start":154.25,"end":154.53,"text":"All right."},{"start":155.09,"end":156.81,"text":"And just say that's totally wrong."},{"start":156.89,"end":162.24,"text":"He's very under very active consideration, under very active consideration, the president has said."},{"start":162.93,"end":167.25,"text":"And that's a totally wrong information."},{"start":167.55,"end":169.35,"text":"That didn't come out of your shop anyway, did it?"},{"start":169.57,"end":169.91,"text":"No, sir."},{"start":170.77,"end":173.58,"text":"I didn't know how to handle a bird thing, so I just left it loose."},{"start":173.98,"end":176.44,"text":"I talked to the Attorney General briefly about it yesterday."},{"start":178.12,"end":180.83,"text":"The way we've been playing it is that he is one of those under consideration."},{"start":180.87,"end":182.55,"text":"He is under very active consideration."},{"start":182.57,"end":186.57,"text":"And we did not add... Just say that he's under very active consideration."},{"start":186.81,"end":189.78,"text":"Did you see the White House story this morning in the Post?"},{"start":189.76,"end":191.32,"text":"I saw the Poe story, yes."},{"start":191.36,"end":193.24,"text":"Well, that is totally inaccurate."},{"start":193.6,"end":194.12,"text":"Absolutely."},{"start":194.42,"end":195,"text":"Totally inaccurate."},{"start":195.02,"end":196.04,"text":"I don't know where that came from."},{"start":196.06,"end":201.77,"text":"Well, that's one of our guys probably, you know, just trying to frighten to death because Bergman and the Klan or some damn thing."},{"start":201.85,"end":202.17,"text":"I don't know."},{"start":202.69,"end":203.93,"text":"But nevertheless, I want it."},{"start":204.09,"end":204.43,"text":"I want it."},{"start":204.57,"end":205.72,"text":"I want him to name out there."},{"start":206.54,"end":207.64,"text":"Let me explain."},{"start":207.68,"end":208.96,"text":"You, of course, can understand this."},{"start":209.64,"end":211.78,"text":"Let us suppose that we were not considering him."},{"start":212.59,"end":215.43,"text":"Ron, can't you see what it's done to the opposition?"},{"start":215.49,"end":216.53,"text":"Have you considered?"},{"start":216.55,"end":216.81,"text":"Sure."},{"start":216.89,"end":218.37,"text":"McGovern had screen around."},{"start":218.45,"end":218.68,"text":"Sure."},{"start":218.84,"end":222.18,"text":"All the Democratic candidates have had to determine, are they for or against Burt?"},{"start":222.2,"end":224.48,"text":"He's very actively under consideration."},{"start":224.92,"end":225.12,"text":"Right."},{"start":225.34,"end":225.82,"text":"You understand?"},{"start":226,"end":228.03,"text":"We're going to make them stand up and be counted."},{"start":228.32,"end":234.39,"text":"All right, I'll move that in a subtle under... Well, I'd like, if you could, to get that off even before I get there."},{"start":234.41,"end":235.53,"text":"Is there a way you could do it?"},{"start":235.55,"end":236.39,"text":"Yes, sir, I think so."},{"start":236.69,"end":241.6,"text":"Well, I mean, I just say that, look, I'd simply call it..."},{"start":242.27,"end":245.08,"text":"Whoever wrote the post story, just call them in."},{"start":245.52,"end":247.16,"text":"Well, Spence Rich wrote the post story."},{"start":247.28,"end":249.24,"text":"All right, fine."},{"start":249.62,"end":250.12,"text":"Is he there?"},{"start":251.37,"end":253.37,"text":"Calling Spence Rich in the two wires."},{"start":254.15,"end":255.77,"text":"Calling Spence Rich in the two wires."},{"start":256.47,"end":262.18,"text":"And say, look, fellas, you got this story, and I don't want you to get off on the wrong track."},{"start":262.22,"end":264.93,"text":"He's under very active consideration, along with others."},{"start":264.99,"end":265.93,"text":"I'm not going to go beyond it."},{"start":266.93,"end":267.45,"text":"Okay, sir."},{"start":267.47,"end":268.43,"text":"Bye."},{"start":276.09,"end":278.03,"text":"Dr. Kissinger, please."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon coordinates a press strategy with his Press Secretary regarding an upcoming media briefing, explicitly timing the session to end by noon to accommodate a meeting with congressional leaders. 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