Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 011-095
Date: Thursday, October 14, 1971 at 9:14 AM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Kissinger, Henry A.
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/011-095

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[0:01] Hello, how'd you get along with the Senators?
[0:07] Oh, I think it was a very good meeting.
[0:11] They were all there.
[0:13] There's only about seven of them there.
[0:34] That's enough.
[0:34] That's enough.
[0:34] Their truck's not niggling around anymore, Mr. President.
[0:35] This is an English truck.
[0:36] Like, uh, it was a piece of cake.
[0:36] It was, I was on the attack of it.
[0:37] I mean, it started nagging just a little bit about the laws and can't vote here.
[0:39] We don't need all that money.
[0:39] I said, yeah.
[0:40] You know, Mr. President.
[0:40] Mm-hmm.
[0:42] Good.
[0:54] Good.
[0:55] Well, you've done your... Yeah.
[1:05] Yeah.
[1:05] Oh, incidentally, you heard what Harriman did, didn't you?
[1:11] He said, he goes and told me he had a statement to the effect that it was, that these, the two summits are just election year gimmicks and they mean nothing else.
[1:25] Think of that.
[1:26] There he was squealing about not having a Russian thing, you know, he's called it, he really is a,
[1:31] Incidentally, I hear Life is probably going to bust the DM thing on him next, in two weeks.
[1:53] But not on him, just his.
[1:53] Apparently they've got some dope on what he did.
[1:54] And what is, what they said about the drastic red that they would help support your election in North Carolina?
[1:57] Yeah.
[1:57] You know, O. Harriman was one of the chief actors in the media.
[1:58] Yeah, well, apparently they've got the story.
[1:59] Looking around, moseying around on the police.
[2:00] Well, let him go.
[2:21] Let him have it.
[2:21] Just let him have it.
[2:22] Well, I tell you, he's really showing his colors.
[2:23] He's just a total partisan.
[2:23] They have got a thing to say.
[2:24] That's a good evening.
[2:24] I can't make the best come out of this with a tall degree.
[2:25] What are they going to do?
[2:26] They're going to let you get next to the next doctor in the office.
[2:28] You know, getting back to Salton, Smith's attitude is really pretty cheap.
[2:36] Jesus Christ, what the hell does he think he's there for, for himself?
[2:42] Yeah, really, I'm glad you put it to him, because we're not going to let him get away with this kind of thing.
[2:51] that, first of all, of course the president gets the credit for the work that's done in his administration.
[3:11] He's the only one that gets elected.
[3:12] But in his case, he didn't do the work.
[3:13] Well, in any event, I approved it all, so that's fine.
[3:14] Well, he did more than approve it.
[3:14] We broke the call that long out of here.
[3:15] Sure.
[3:15] I don't know what the hell he's talking about.
[3:16] Yeah, yeah.
[3:17] Do we have anything, anybody on his...
[3:20] group that we could trust, I don't suppose so, except the general.
[3:42] No, no, no, on the delegation.
[3:42] Not even the Air Force fellow.
[3:43] Yeah.
[3:43] Well, let's just keep them.
[3:44] Just be sure to bring him those.
[4:06] You're not going to make any kind of a deal with them.
[4:07] I've got that fixed.
[4:07] Good.
[4:07] I'm having dinner with Patrice.
[4:08] Good.
[4:08] Good.
[4:08] You know, I think this Conley move is a very good one.
[4:09] I think it's a tremendous move.
[4:10] And we've got a perfect cover for it.
[4:11] He ought to go to Japan.
[4:11] And I think the way of handling it is how to announce it is so important.
[4:13] I just don't want to have it announced he's going to Vietnam alone.
[4:33] I don't think that should be the first announcement.
[4:34] We've got to put it out there.
[4:35] Well, that's good.
[4:35] But he's a good soldier.
[4:36] He's going to go out there.
[4:36] He knows what the stakes are.
[4:37] He says, honestly, I'd like to go.
[4:38] He's willing to do what's right.
[4:41] And he knows what he owes his president and what he owes his country.
[4:56] Well, I think that's true, Jan.
[4:57] He isn't just thinking, well, maybe he's going to get muddied up with...
[4:58] But the funny thing is, the people who stand up come out of their heads as opposed to those who try to play all the angles.
[5:01] I think so.
[5:02] Well, okay.
[5:18] Just keep Smith in line.
[5:24] I'm not going to have him get out of line.
[5:25] Do you have any further feelings on NATO?
[5:26] I don't know.
[5:28] I don't want to send
[5:46] you'll find some version.
[6:06] On the U.N., Mr. President, what I have approved for you is a statement that is sent out at the State Department table which states that it's fully reflective of the views of the President.
[6:10] So they can't even use a paper with your name on it.
[6:11] But nevertheless, it has your full support.
[6:12] You think you can go that far?
[6:12] That's about the absolute maximum.
[6:13] What is the maximum?
[6:31] Yeah, I wonder if we can go that far.
[6:34] And he said we have to be very careful not to send it to many countries.
[6:35] This one went to Ireland.
[6:36] It didn't happen.
[6:36] But I'd be very careful.
[6:37] I'm not going to say a word about it.
[6:38] I'm not going to do it anymore.
[6:38] Because I have done mine.
[6:39] I did it deliberately to get it out of the way.
[6:40] Now I am thrilled.
[6:40] Now we'll just let them work on it.
[6:41] It's their job.
[6:41] Right.
[6:42] They ought to be able to handle places like Panama and Venezuela.
[7:07] They ought to just be able to just go to them and say, now look, come along boys, don't pull around here.
[7:09] They can get more votes than they think if they work on it that way.
[7:10] That way.
[7:11] You know, just on the basis of what's important to us.
[7:33] So let's vote.
[7:33] Well, maybe we ought to send Smith to NATO.
[7:34] Can't take him out of this.
[7:36] Yeah, he's coming in to play his line.
[7:55] He's giving the chance.
[7:56] I don't want him.
[7:56] He's too close to the establishment.
[7:57] He's going to have to go to the establishment.
[7:58] He's been burned by Yost.
[7:58] Come on.
[7:59] That's really what you come down to.
[7:59] Every time that guy opens his mouth, he's not going to do it.
[8:04] Uh-huh.
[8:17] He probably connived with them.
[8:26] Hmm.
[8:26] That will stick prematurely.
[8:28] Okay.