{"conversationCode":"011-156","tapeNumber":11,"conversationNumber":156,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-011-156","startDateTime":"1971-10-20T13:05:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-20T13:19:00.000Z","startDate":"20-Oct-1971","startTime":"9:05 AM","endDate":"20-Oct-1971","endTime":"9:19 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\"); Malek, Frederic V.; Butterfield, Alexander P.; White House operator;","description":"On October 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, H. R. (\"Bob\") Haldeman, Frederic V. Malek, Alexander P. Butterfield, and the White House operator talked on the telephone from 9:05 am to 9:19 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 011-156 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 011-156\n\n Date: October 20, 1971\n Time: 9:05 am - 9:19 am\n Location: White House Telephone\n\n The President conferred with H. R. (“Bob”) Haldeman, Frederick V. Malek, Alexander P.\n Butterfield.\n\n        Supreme Court nominees\n\n The White House operator talked with the President.\n\n        Telephone call from John N. Mitchell","filename":["011-156.mp3"],"tapeStart":"04:50:48","tapeEnd":"04:51:33","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","Haldeman, H. R. (\"Bob\")","Malek, Frederic V.","Butterfield, Alexander P.","White House operator"],"prevCode":"011-155","nextCode":"011-157","transcript":[{"start":0.62,"end":3.77,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":4.47,"end":7.65,"text":"That's, uh..."},{"start":7.67,"end":8.95,"text":"Yes, please."},{"start":8.97,"end":11.41,"text":"Yes, please."},{"start":11.45,"end":16.58,"text":"Check to see if you have any others of that type."},{"start":16.6,"end":17.42,"text":"Yes, sir."},{"start":17.64,"end":22.39,"text":"Yeah, that are outstanding in the country that are on lists that you're looking at."},{"start":22.41,"end":26.31,"text":"I don't mean judges like me, because they're looking at our notes, but, you know, the women here are going to know."},{"start":26.33,"end":27.25,"text":"I just think you guys include me."},{"start":27.27,"end":28.67,"text":"There's a number of women we met with the lawyers."},{"start":29.46,"end":38.82,"text":"Mr. President."},{"start":38.98,"end":40.17,"text":"Oh, I don't mean that."},{"start":40.19,"end":40.95,"text":"I'm 40 years old."},{"start":40.97,"end":41.23,"text":"Hello."},{"start":41.37,"end":42.73,"text":"Mr. President, you talk to a general?"},{"start":42.75,"end":42.85,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":42.87,"end":43.13,"text":"Fine."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon consulted with H. R. Haldeman, Frederic Malek, and Alexander Butterfield to discuss the selection process for upcoming Supreme Court nominations. The group deliberated on potential candidates, specifically focusing on the inclusion of qualified women for the vacancies. Nixon directed his staff to vet additional candidates from existing lists before coordinating further with Attorney General John Mitchell.","topics":["Supreme Court","Judicial appointments","Hiring practices","John Mitchell","Gender diversity"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T23:29:37.360Z"},"topicSlugs":["supreme-court","judicial-appointments","hiring-practices","john-n-mitchell","gender-diversity"],"audioDurationSec":44,"audioFiles":[{"file":"011-156.mp3","bytes":1419130,"durationSec":44.21,"bitrate":256777,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:22.041Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/011-156.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/011-156","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/011/conversation-011-156","catalogNaId":417190199,"catalogUrl":"https://catalog.archives.gov/id/417190199","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}