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Conversation 012-003

TapeTape 12StartWednesday, October 20, 1971 at 3:06 PMEndWednesday, October 20, 1971 at 3:10 PMTape start time00:08:34Tape end time00:13:27ParticipantsNixon, Richard M. (President);  Rumsfeld, Donald H.Recording deviceWhite House Telephone
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On October 20, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and Donald H. Rumsfeld talked on the telephone from 3:06 pm to 3:10 pm. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 012-003 of the White House Tapes.

Nixon Library Finding Aid
Conversation No. 012-003

Date: October 20, 1971
Time: 3:06 pm- 3:10 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with Donald H. Rumsfeld.

[See Conversation No. 282-12]

     Final figures
           -Princeton person
                 -Information to the press

     Names for committees
         -Price Board
         -Pay Board
               -Hoyt Ammidon
                     -President, New York Trust
                     -John B. Connally
                     -Peter G. Peterson
                     -Offer of Ambassadorship
               -Timing for announcement
                     -The President's schedule
                           -Republican women
         -Price Board
               -C. Jackson Grayson
         -Pay Board
               -Personnel
                     -George P. Shultz
                     -Obligations of chairman
                           -Qualifications
                     -William W. Scranton II
                     -Shultz
                           -Harvard University
                           -Dean, Michigan
                     -Importance
               -George Meany

                                                                              Conversation No. 012-004

Date: October 20, 1971
Time: 3:37 pm- 3:39 pm
Location: White House Telephone

The President talked with H.R. (“Bob”) Haldeman.

[See Conversation No. 282-14B]

     Congress’ schedule
          -Thelma C. (“Pat”) Nixon's trip
          -State of the Union
                -Scheduling
Transcript (AI-Generated)

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Hello.
Yes, sir.
Yeah.
Hi, Don.
Yes, sir.
Oh, I wondered what your final figure came from your friend up in Princeton.
Oh, I've not gotten it.
Oh, I see.
I was not aware that you were under the impression that I had.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I thought you said that he was going to have it, but that's all right.
It's not important.
Well, I'll check with him and see what he's got.
Let's see.
Today's
Wednesday.
I think he has to send it out to the papers Wednesday night or Thursday morning, so he must have it.
We don't want it in advance, unless he wants to give it to us.
Sure.
Well, I'll take a crack at it and get back to you.
If you have it.
I'm just curious.
Sure, I am too.
If he's going to come out Sunday, if he's going to come out Sunday, he'll probably just as soon let you have it.
I would think so.
Since they're going to have it, because hell, he knows damn well you're not going to tell anybody.
No.
Right, right.
Good.
Well, I'm... How are you getting on your names?
Everything on the committee is still... Well, it's coming.
The price is completely done.
There's still one... You need a public member?
A private member.
One name that occurred to me, who's a very good man in social, I mean, public-minded, is Hoyt Amidon.
Has that name ever come across your desk?
No, sir.
I've not seen his name on there yet.
He's the president of New York Trust.
He's a great friend of Connolly's.
Connolly was on his board.
And he's about 60 years of age and, you know, very public-spirited, great fellow, and sort of one of the big men in the financial communities.
i'll pass that along to amadon peter knows him well they're all their social buddies very good i don't know why i hadn't thought of his name previously because we've he was so good that as a matter of fact we offered him ambassador to paris once so but he's he's a name that occurs to me we're hoping and shooting for an announcement tomorrow on both of them and then a visit a brief visit with you oh i should have a visit sometime friday it would be fine fine the other thing is that uh
Yeah, anytime you say, because I'll be here all day Friday.
I'm not going away.
Great.
This weekend.
So we could do it, and that'd be good, get it Friday afternoon so it hits next week's magazine.
Right.
And the Sunday papers.
Right.
Friday afternoon.
I do something.
Oh, yeah, I do the Republican Women Friday morning.
But I do not want that to be the big news anyway.
I would much prefer to have this blanket that.
We could do it at 11 o'clock, 11.30.
That's when we were hoping, and the only thing is pinning down this one last fellow.
Fine.
Who'd you make chairman of the price board, finally?
Did you decide?
Grayson is his name.
I don't know him personally.
But you've got a pretty good board.
The pay one is the open.
Oh, it's the open.
The chairman.
And George has got to call into a fellow right now and
You're trying to go for what?
What kind of a fellow there?
Well, he's got to be a public type, and we're hopeful he's a...
He's got to be a professor, in other words.
Well, or a mediation type who could get people to work together.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, we always come up with that same fellow from Harvard all the time, but I guess we can't use him on this one.
It's going to be a tough job.
Oh, this is the most important assignment of all.
Not Scranton, huh?
No, sir.
He's on the price one.
Yes, indeed.
Let me think about on this.
Let's think.
You really need a strong man here, a strong, strong, vigorous man.
The fellow who George is calling is a dean up at Michigan.
and well that's a kind of well he ought to be able if he can run a goddamn campus he could do this maybe so maybe i don't know okay well but i think it's coming along george's judgment would be very good on this sort of thing because really when you come down to it uh
The ideal man to head this is George.
I mean, he would be excellent.
He's the kind of man we're looking for.
So just tell George to get somebody like himself.
Yes, indeed.
That'll make you feel good, too.
Okay.
But don't you agree?
George is strong.
He really would.
He's liked by both sides and respected.
Sure.
I mean, I don't know.
It's...
The names are sure a problem, though, they're sure.
It is, and it's also going to take some guy with some backbone and guts.
He can't be... Oh, yeah, because you see, the pay one is the one that scares all the businessmen together.
Of course, the businessmen are wrong.
They're too spineless, but you've got to have somebody that can not let George Meany and these fellows muck them down every time.
Yes, sir.
Well, good luck.
If you need any help, let me know.
Great.
And I'll get back to you on this.
I'm just working over in the OB today on some private things.
Good.
Well, I'll get back to you on the other thing.
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