Nixon White House Tapes — Conversation 012-006
Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1971 at 3:40 PM
Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Nixon, Thelma C. ("Pat") (Ryan)
Recording device: White House Telephone
Source: https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/012-006

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[0:00] You know I was just talking to Bill Rogers and he's got a great idea I think if you know that if you could take three or four of the top women in government and do three or four more countries
[0:20] You see what I mean?
[0:21] Now, the reason is that now, for example, and they wouldn't be black, but there is one black woman, you know, Ella Koontz in labor, who is really quite outstanding.
[0:31] So you could take a top person from HEW,
[0:34] Yeah, I have to think about it a little bit, Dick.
[0:37] So let's don't decide right now because some of these women, they're awfully hard to take care of.
[0:42] You know, you can't get around much.
[0:44] Like in Mexico, remember?
[0:46] I know, I know.
[0:47] I had all the cabinet wives with me and I could hardly operate.
[0:51] I know.
[0:51] The way I would do it, though, is that I would not have them with you.
[0:55] I'd have them have separate schedules.
[0:57] Oh, yeah.
[0:58] Well, we could.
[0:59] You'd go in.
[0:59] You'd go in, and each of them would go out.
[1:02] One would visit a hospital, another would go to a nursing home, another go to a volunteer center, another go to that.
[1:08] And you go to the things you go to, see.
[1:10] You'd only meet socially at night, which is the way I've gone, see, at times.
[1:14] No, I think, and the idea, too, the idea of making the trip substantive is very important.
[1:19] Yeah, well, I put that out.
[1:21] Because of the substantive thing.
[1:23] Yeah.
[1:23] Listen, I have to go to another thing now.
[1:26] I'll talk about it later, all right?
[1:28] Okay.