{"conversationCode":"012-035","tapeNumber":12,"conversationNumber":35,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-012-035","startDateTime":"1971-10-21T14:52:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-21T15:04:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Oct-1971","startTime":"10:52 AM","endDate":"21-Oct-1971","endTime":"11:04 AM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"estimated","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator;","description":"On October 21, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon and the White House operator talked on the telephone at an unknown time between 10:52 am and 11:04 am. The White House Telephone taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 012-035 of the White House Tapes.","locationCode":"WHT","recordingDevice":"White House Telephone","latitudeEstimated":38.89767,"longitudeEstimated":-77.03655,"chronCode":2,"chronRelease":"Second Chronological Release","chronReleaseDate":"26-Oct-2000","aogpRelease":null,"aogpSegment":null,"lastModified":"2015-07-27T17:04:10.235Z","findingAid":"Conversation No. 012-035\n\nDate: October 21, 1971\nTime: Unknown between 10:52 am and 11:04 am\nLocation: White House Telephone\n\nThe White House operator talked with the President.\n\n[See Conversation No. 281-26A]\n\n     John B. Connally's schedule\n\n     The President's schedule","filename":["012-035.mp3"],"tapeStart":"00:58:14","tapeEnd":"00:58:55","participantsList":["Nixon, Richard M. (President)","White House operator"],"prevCode":"012-034","nextCode":"012-036","transcript":[{"start":2.04,"end":2.6,"text":"Yep."},{"start":2.62,"end":5.26,"text":"Mr. President, they're telling me Secretary Connolly is in the shower."},{"start":5.3,"end":7.29,"text":"I want to know if he could call back in about 10 minutes."},{"start":8.15,"end":9.29,"text":"Or do you want me to stay with it?"},{"start":10.81,"end":15.49,"text":"I'll tell you, I'll be gone, but tell him it's not urgent, and I'll call him in an hour or so."},{"start":16.04,"end":16.14,"text":"Fine."},{"start":16.16,"end":17.48,"text":"You don't want me to hold on it?"},{"start":17.5,"end":18.42,"text":"No, don't hold on it."},{"start":18.44,"end":18.76,"text":"All right, sir."},{"start":18.78,"end":21.8,"text":"Because I have to go over to do something at the... All right, sir."},{"start":22.24,"end":23.07,"text":"I'm sorry."},{"start":23.09,"end":24.33,"text":"He'll be out in 10 minutes?"},{"start":24.55,"end":24.77,"text":"Okay."},{"start":24.79,"end":26.09,"text":"That's what they said, about 10 minutes."},{"start":27.81,"end":27.91,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":27.93,"end":29.83,"text":"Let's see if I... Do you want me to wait?"},{"start":29.85,"end":30.81,"text":"It might not be that long."},{"start":31.16,"end":31.71,"text":"Yeah."},{"start":31.73,"end":32.05,"text":"All right."},{"start":32.09,"end":33.71,"text":"You can just leave the call in."},{"start":33.91,"end":34.66,"text":"All right."},{"start":34.72,"end":37.03,"text":"I'll stick around ten minutes, but I'll have to leave."},{"start":37.47,"end":37.81,"text":"All right."},{"start":37.83,"end":38.31,"text":"Don't rush him."},{"start":38.59,"end":39.45,"text":"All right, sir."}],"aiSummary":{"text":"President Nixon attempted to initiate a telephone conversation with Secretary of the Treasury John B. Connally. Upon learning that Connally was unavailable, the President coordinated with the White House operator to manage the timing of the call. Ultimately, Nixon decided to delay the conversation for approximately one hour due to his own impending schedule, explicitly instructing the operator not to rush the Secretary.","topics":["John B. Connally","Scheduling","Presidential communications","Treasury Department"],"generatedAt":"2026-04-05T23:33:28.434Z"},"topicSlugs":["john-b-connally","scheduling","presidential-communications","treasury-department"],"audioDurationSec":41,"audioFiles":[{"file":"012-035.mp3","bytes":989308,"durationSec":41.15,"bitrate":192324,"missing":false}],"audioIsShared":false,"audioProbedAt":"2026-09-18T02:19:22.040Z","audio":["https://nixon.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/audio/012-035.mp3"],"url":"https://www.easynixon.org/tapes/012-035","nixonLibraryUrl":"https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/white-house-tapes/12/conversation-012-035","license":"Public domain (U.S. Government work). AI-generated fields (transcript, aiSummary) are provided as-is without warranty."}