{"conversationCode":"012-060","tapeNumber":12,"conversationNumber":60,"identifier":"37-wht-conversation-012-060","startDateTime":"1971-10-22T00:32:00.000Z","endDateTime":"1971-10-22T00:39:00.000Z","startDate":"21-Oct-1971","startTime":"8:32 PM","endDate":"21-Oct-1971","endTime":"8:39 PM","dateCertainty":"certain","timeCertainty":"certain","participants":"Nixon, Richard M. (President); White House operator; Eisenhower, Julie Nixon;","description":"On October 21, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, White House operator, and Julie Nixon Eisenhower talked on the telephone from 8:32 pm to 8:39 pm. 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(Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n               -The President’s announcement of nominees to the Supreme Court\n                      -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n                              -Herschel H. Friday\n                              -Mildred L. Lillie\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n[Personal Returnable]\n[012-060-w001]\n[Duration: 4s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1\n\n******************************************************************************\n\n       Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s response\n\n       Supreme Court nominees\n             -Rose Mary Woods’s delivery of copy of speech to Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon\n             -Julie Nixon Eisenhower and [Dwight] David Eisenhower, II’s opinion\n             -Female appointee\n                     -Thelma C. (Ryan) (“Pat”) Nixon’s response\n                            -Florida\n                     -American Bar Association [ABA]\n                     -NBC News reaction to announcement\n                            -Women viewers\n                                     -Legal background\n                                     -Age\n\n       Richard Nixon Presidential Library and Museum, NARA Online Public Access Catalog Identifier: 597542\n\n******************************************************************************\n\nBEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n[Personal Returnable]\n[012-060-w002]\n[Duration: 6s]\n\nEND WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2\n\n*******************************************************************************\n\n               -Appointment of Lewis F. Powell and William H. Rehnquist\n               -Thelma C. 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